From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GGClr-00027d-CM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:49:11 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k7OAmMdo001986; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:48:22 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7OAkLGb000640 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:46:22 GMT Received: from [192.168.168.2] (bl6-53-232.dsl.telepac.pt [82.155.53.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976606472B for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die. From: Luis Medinas To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20060824122137.GG2280@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> References: <1156365020.13743.15.camel@darksytem> <20060824122137.GG2280@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:46:17 +0100 Message-Id: <1156416377.13743.44.camel@darksytem> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 09552126-404c-4714-97be-4e424e61c6bc X-Archives-Hash: bf16e3c02b92d966c4669fa9ceeeeae8 On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 05:21 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The last time this came up, a few months ago, mentioned in somebodies > blog, I made an effort to look at both bmpx and audacious. > > Both used significantly more CPU, and one of them was completely > unusable with the size of my playlist (~24000 items, mostly legal MP3) - > it sucked up ~4Gb of memory, and then the OOM killer smote it. > The audio player i use these days is banshee and sometimes muine. Yes that's true they eat too much mem compared to xmms. > The plugins I used are xosd, songchange, realrandom - none of which > seemed to be trivially recompilable when I looked, but I do see that at > least one other distro has managed to port xosd. > We can port it too. > One thing that XMMS does have going for it compared to the newer GTK2 > variants is that it's much more light-weight. I'm not sure if it's just > because of the usage of GTK2 instead of GTK1, but the added size of the > alternatives isn't suitable for the moment. > Yes but you need to remember that GTK1 is not supported by upstream anymore. > As noted by other folk, I have no objections with the default changing > away from xmms, to discourage new users, but don't take XMMS away from > those of us already using it without any issues. > Yes discourage new users is the way and move the current users to another player is necessary too. We can move xmms for overlays with no support from us or maybe anyone else take it apart from sound herd. -- Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~metalgod -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list