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From: foser <foser@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:32:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154633554.16246.28.camel@rivendell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060801160531.67a8f654@c1358217.kevquinn.com>

On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:05 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > 2. [...] Therefore I do not believe that QA for a tree that is as
> > extensive as Sunrise done by a few 'official' developers amounts to
> > much real world quality.
> 
> I would expect that over time, the Sunrise developers will learn more
> and more how to write quality ebuilds (as hopefully do we all).  Since
> they'll be working with a diverse set of stuff, they could become better
> than most devs at this.  Remember that since they have custody of the
> stuff in the Sunrise overlay, they will be hit with whatever issues
> arise from their work.

I expect the developers involved to be able to write quality ebuilds
right now, otherwise they shouldn't be developers. However, I don't
expect them to write quality ebuilds for everything in the tree, there
are a lot of packages that need specific knowledge to make a correct
ebuild. That is why we got the herd system, that is why we have a couple
of hundred ebuilders who all have their own specific parts of the tree
to take care of.

> What it does give you is a track record you can look through - in much
> the same way you might have watched what someone did on bugzilla or
> IRC.  Indeed I'd suggest that the history in Sunrise SVN would be
> useful to indicate whether someone is learning how to write ebuilds
> properly, or just continues to make the same errors.

Ebuilding is such a small part of the job I wouldn't seriously take it
into account, to me much more important is the bughandling skills of a
potential developer. Is he/she able to distill the right information
from a report, ask for the right additional info and come to a practical
and neat solution ?

- Marinus

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-03 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-31 17:25 [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations foser
2006-08-01  8:21 ` Tobias Klausmann
2006-08-01 11:29   ` Jeroen Roovers
2006-08-01 12:42     ` Tobias Klausmann
2006-08-01 12:51     ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-08-16 10:52       ` [gentoo-dev] User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations] Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 11:18         ` Simon Stelling
2006-08-16 11:29           ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-16 12:45             ` [gentoo-dev] User support system Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 13:04               ` Mike Bonar
2006-08-16 13:00                 ` Alec Warner
2006-08-16 16:01                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-23 12:06                 ` Philipp Riegger
2006-08-23 12:54                   ` Alec Warner
2006-08-23 18:16                     ` Philipp Riegger
2006-08-20 19:45             ` [gentoo-dev] User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations] Jeffrey Forman
2006-08-16 12:26           ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 13:54           ` Alastair Tse
2006-08-16 16:07             ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 13:27         ` Thomas Cort
2006-08-16 16:11           ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 17:37             ` Jean-François Gagnon Laporte
2006-08-16 18:22               ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 18:31                 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-16 19:29                   ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 19:41                     ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-16 19:45                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-16 21:49                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-17  1:01                       ` [gentoo-dev] If I may interject Mike Lundy
2006-08-17  9:20                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-21  2:40                           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-17 19:12                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-18  0:22                           ` Samuel Baldwin
2006-08-18 13:01                             ` Jean-François Gagnon Laporte
2006-08-18 14:16                               ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " Alec Warner
2006-08-17 14:37                       ` [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations] Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-17 14:46                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-17 19:17                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-17 19:42                           ` James Potts
2006-08-17 20:05                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-18  2:01                               ` Mike Cvet
2006-08-18 11:35                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-18 12:30                                 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-17 20:44                             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-16 18:00             ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Cort
2006-08-16 19:10               ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 19:16                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-17 22:13             ` Marius Mauch
2006-08-16 11:27   ` [gentoo-dev] Portage Subtrees " Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 11:40     ` Martin Rud Ehmsen
2006-08-16 16:22       ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-16 20:54         ` Martin Rud Ehmsen
2006-08-16 13:02     ` Alec Warner
2006-08-16 15:28   ` [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-01 14:05 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-08-03 19:32   ` foser [this message]
2006-08-02 10:00 ` Thierry Carrez
2006-08-02 10:12   ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]     ` <44D0B1A3.7080009@gentoo.org>
2006-08-02 14:55       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 17:44         ` Wernfried Haas
2006-08-02 21:51   ` [gentoo-dev] metastructure model (was Re: Sunrise contemplations) Kevin F. Quinn
2006-08-02 22:16     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-03 19:22   ` [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations foser

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