From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G8eXq-0005SQ-Nw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:51:31 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k73EohCi006994; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:50:43 GMT Received: from mail01.emarketsouth.com (mail01.emarketsouth.com [208.247.233.6]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k73EmqPf009877 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:48:52 GMT Received: (qmail 11463 invoked by uid 399); 3 Aug 2006 14:53:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO onyx) (64.192.54.4) by mail01.emarketsouth.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 14:53:38 -0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August From: Ned Ludd To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <44D20317.6030000@gentoo.org> References: <20060801093001.C97C864465@smtp.gentoo.org> <44D1BFFD.4040303@gentoo.org> <1154607828.23292.5.camel@localhost> <44D1F4EF.3000209@gentoo.org> <1154612153.17538.26.camel@onyx> <44D20317.6030000@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:48:50 -0400 Message-Id: <1154616531.28858.53.camel@onyx> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2bc2cd1c-ecb9-4ecb-968c-225ef9e6c35d X-Archives-Hash: f56c51e44d4ce9227c10b6a49f314c75 On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:07 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>> Would like the Council to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla > >>>> [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2]. > >>> Please elaborate why you need the council to discuss > >>> ongoing active bugs that are in progress. > > Progress? Erm... see below. > > >> I would also like to know why the council has to be involved since > >> you've never sent an email to infra specifically asking the same thing > >> first. Sure makes sense to me that you should ask the group involved > >> with the work first instead of going to the top. > > Because it's been broken for ages? Because I've asked the same on the > bug I've referred to multiple times, as did quite a few other people, > and the thing is still dead ~3 hours a day? (So uhm, the argument that > infra doesn't know about is _really_ moot.) Because users complain over > and over again? Because we are getting tons of duplicate bugs due to > bugzilla being non-responsive? Ok this is basically bitching. Trust me we all know the current state of things with bugzilla and it's not fun for anybody. I'm sure however if you practice a little patience I'm sure you will be quite pleased with the end result. > Because it's wasting hours of my time > every day? Because if CVS was in the same state, you'd about have a > revolution by now? I think you might be misunderstanding the role that the council plays. It's a body for technical matters that effect the mainly "the code". Daily matters of infrastructure are handled by our infra team naturally. Funding for hardware is approved by the foundation. > >> The anoncvs/svn stuff needs the attention of some knowledgeable cvs/svn > >> guru. We want to ensure that we cover all our grounds in the setup so > >> that we don't make a system that's easily DoS'able. If anyone wants to > >> help out with that, please contact KingTaco as he's the contact for that > >> project right now. > > > > It's just about ready afaik. We just want robbat2 to review the CVS > > setup and I probably need to drop a patch in the cvs pkg to disable > > compression. We probably also want Pylon to review the svn setup. > > Good news, would be nice if you actually responded on the bug maybe? Or > send out some status report occasionally, since the bug's been open for > ~1 year now? > > >> Patience is indeed a virtue. > > > > Indeed.. > > Sorry, having a critical facility broken for ~6 months right now =! > patience. It plain sucks. You must live in that town where spare hardware and administrators grow on the trees. As it stands I do not see why this needs to be an agenda item for council discussions. -- Ned Ludd Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list