Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

[Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>]

On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:07 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Ned Ludd wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> >>>> Would like the Council to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla
> >>>> [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2].
> >>> Please elaborate why you need the council to discuss 
> >>> ongoing active bugs that are in progress.
> 
> Progress? Erm... see below.
> 
> >> I would also like to know why the council has to be involved since
> >> you've never sent an email to infra specifically asking the same thing
> >> first. Sure makes sense to me that you should ask the group involved
> >> with the work first instead of going to the top.
> 
> Because it's been broken for ages? Because I've asked the same on the
> bug I've referred to multiple times, as did quite a few other people,
> and the thing is still dead ~3 hours a day? (So uhm, the argument that
> infra doesn't know about is _really_ moot.) Because users complain over
> and over again? Because we are getting tons of duplicate bugs due to
> bugzilla being non-responsive? 

Ok this is basically bitching. Trust me we all know the current state 
of things with bugzilla and it's not fun for anybody. I'm sure 
however if you practice a little patience I'm sure you will be 
quite pleased with the end result.

> Because it's wasting hours of my time
> every day? Because if CVS was in the same state, you'd about have a
> revolution by now?

I think you might be misunderstanding the role that the council plays. 
It's a body for technical matters that effect the mainly "the code". 
Daily matters of infrastructure are handled by our infra team naturally.
Funding for hardware is approved by the foundation.

> >> The anoncvs/svn stuff needs the attention of some knowledgeable cvs/svn
> >> guru. We want to ensure that we cover all our grounds in the setup so
> >> that we don't make a system that's easily DoS'able. If anyone wants to
> >> help out with that, please contact KingTaco as he's the contact for that
> >> project right now.
> > 
> > It's just about ready afaik. We just want robbat2 to review the CVS 
> > setup and I probably need to drop a patch in the cvs pkg to disable 
> > compression. We probably also want Pylon to review the svn setup.
> 
> Good news, would be nice if you actually responded on the bug maybe? Or
> send out some status report occasionally, since the bug's been open for
> ~1 year now?
> 
> >> Patience is indeed a virtue.
> > 
> > Indeed..
> 
> Sorry, having a critical facility broken for ~6 months right now =!
> patience. It plain sucks.

You must live in that town where spare hardware and administrators 
grow on the trees.

As it stands I do not see why this needs to be an agenda item for 
council discussions.

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Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Linux

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