From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-15359-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1G7PL6-0000sY-Ge for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:25:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V4OMOa029525; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:24:22 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V4LCsi005369 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:13 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-147-189-107.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.147.189.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA24644EC for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) From: Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200607302350.40687.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> References: <eabcs0$j25$1@sea.gmane.org> <200607302332.28056.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> <1154317329.11516.16.camel@localhost> <200607302350.40687.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:21:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1154319679.11516.24.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: df2c8bfe-ecbd-40c7-8b65-c35b23eb42ee X-Archives-Hash: 38b88d96ff9f7161ce0c2420d4458870 On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 23:50 -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > My concern is beyond me. As I stated I know enough about what to expect IF I > use sunrise. But many do not and with it becoming official people figure > it's gentoo and when it breaks Gentoo suffers. Gentoo has a reputation as a > good solid, stable distro. As user and big fan of Gentoo I'm concerned - why > couldn't sunrise have stayed unoffical like BMG. Why does it have to be > official? Gentoo can choose to do what it feels is right and I will do the > same. BMG has, from day 1, been marginalised in the Gentoo community. I always fancied that they should've been folded into the larger Gentoo projects and become what Sunrise is today. The way I read you, your fear is based on the possibility of some future perception by an unknown number of people. Sunrise's idea is that stuff gets checked and re-checked and remains accessible -- have you read through their site and their commit histories and changesets? They're not exactly dawdling. As for Gentoo's reputation, I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear it characterised that way :) If it has that reputation, then it will actually take a lot to break that. I'm surprised that ~keywords didn't already break it. I agree that the official portage tree is a QA nightmare. Sunrise seems to be nipping that nightmare for a future date -- ie by allowing people to commit and perform peer reviews, they're grooming the next generation of developers to look at QA from the outset, instead of as an afterthought. > I answered only because someone asked for user's concerns well this is mine > and you all can do with the input as you please without any hard feelings on > my part. It's an exchange of ideas, there shouldn't be hard feelings on anyone's part. -- Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org> Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list