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From: Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:21:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154319679.11516.24.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607302350.40687.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net>

On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 23:50 -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> My concern is beyond me.  As I  stated I know enough about what to expect IF I 
> use sunrise.  But many do not and with it becoming official people figure 
> it's gentoo and when it breaks Gentoo suffers.  Gentoo has a reputation as a 
> good solid, stable distro.  As user and big fan of Gentoo I'm concerned - why 
> couldn't sunrise have stayed unoffical like BMG.  Why does it have to be 
> official?  Gentoo can choose to do what it feels is right and I will do the 
> same.

BMG has, from day 1, been marginalised in the Gentoo community.  I
always fancied that they should've been folded into the larger Gentoo
projects and become what Sunrise is today.  The way I read you, your
fear is based on the possibility of some future perception by an unknown
number of people.  Sunrise's idea is that stuff gets checked and
re-checked and remains accessible -- have you read through their site
and their commit histories and changesets?  They're not exactly
dawdling.

As for Gentoo's reputation, I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear it
characterised that way :)  If it has that reputation, then it will
actually take a lot to break that.  I'm surprised that ~keywords didn't
already break it.   I agree that the official portage tree is a QA
nightmare. Sunrise seems to be nipping that nightmare for a future date
-- ie by allowing people to commit and perform peer reviews, they're
grooming the next generation of developers to look at QA from the
outset, instead of as an afterthought.

> I answered only because someone asked for user's concerns well this is mine 
> and you all can do with the input as you please without any hard feelings on 
> my part.

It's an exchange of ideas, there shouldn't be hard feelings on anyone's
part.


-- 
Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-31  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-27 21:58 [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-27 22:21 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-27 22:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-28  9:36   ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:54   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:47     ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-30 22:58       ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-07-31  2:00       ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31  7:41         ` Jan Kundrát
2006-07-31 10:35         ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-31  2:21       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:10     ` Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-27 23:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28  6:31   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Josh Saddler
2006-07-28  7:34     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28  9:37   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Christel Dahlskjaer
     [not found]   ` <1154079324.8825.54.camel@lycan.lan>
2006-07-28 10:02     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 10:37       ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:51       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:07         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  2:19           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  2:28             ` Dan Meltzer
2006-07-31  2:42               ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  2:53                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  5:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation) Seemant Kulleen
     [not found]                     ` <20060731063003.2a5f018a@snowdrop.home>
2006-07-31  5:38                       ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  5:53                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  6:09                           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  6:37                           ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  6:47                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  7:13                               ` Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31  8:22                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 13:54                                 ` Mike Kelly
2006-08-02 14:53                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02  0:24                     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02  0:41                       ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02  0:49                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02  1:39                       ` Brian Harring
2006-08-02  9:21                         ` Thierry Carrez
2006-08-02  9:33                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02  9:41                             ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-08-02  9:51                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 10:23                                 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-02 10:19                             ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 11:50                               ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 11:51                               ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 12:19                               ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-02 19:49                                 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 15:56                                   ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02 20:32                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 21:30                                     ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-02 18:05                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03  2:56                           ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03  3:09                             ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03  3:27                             ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03  4:11                               ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03  5:22                               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-03  9:46                               ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-03 10:11                                 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03 11:00                             ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-03 16:21                             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03 17:53                               ` Patrick Lauer
2006-07-31  2:52               ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-08-02  0:24                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 13:46                   ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-08-02 14:27               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02 14:34                 ` Roy Marples
2006-08-02 19:53                   ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 20:04                     ` Wernfried Haas
2006-07-31  2:35             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  2:50               ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  3:06                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  3:23                   ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  3:32                   ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31  3:42                     ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  3:50                       ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31  4:21                         ` Seemant Kulleen [this message]
2006-07-31 11:01                           ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Christian Andreetta
2006-07-31 12:53                             ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03  6:49                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03  8:07                                 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-02  0:46                             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02  3:50                               ` Richard Fish
2006-08-02 18:04                                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-07-31  5:33                         ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Rumen Yotov
2006-07-31  3:45                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  4:20                     ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31  4:27                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  4:36                         ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31  4:46                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  4:55                         ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31 13:08                           ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-07-31 14:08                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  5:15                         ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31  5:22                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation Ryan Hill
2006-07-31  5:32                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  6:10                             ` Ryan Hill
2006-07-31  6:21                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  6:33                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31  8:10                             ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-31  8:21                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 10:47                                 ` Georgi Georgiev
2006-08-03  6:58                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03 15:36                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31  8:44                 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31  9:21                   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Jakub Moc
2006-07-31  9:56                     ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31 10:09                       ` Jakub Moc
2006-07-31  2:53               ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:28               ` Roy Bamford
     [not found]             ` <1154340702l.9965l.0l@spike>
2006-07-31 11:01               ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-31 12:30                 ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-30 20:35   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-01  0:53   ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Doug Goldstein
2006-08-01  8:41     ` Henrik Brix Andersen

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