From: Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:21:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154319679.11516.24.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607302350.40687.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net>
On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 23:50 -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> My concern is beyond me. As I stated I know enough about what to expect IF I
> use sunrise. But many do not and with it becoming official people figure
> it's gentoo and when it breaks Gentoo suffers. Gentoo has a reputation as a
> good solid, stable distro. As user and big fan of Gentoo I'm concerned - why
> couldn't sunrise have stayed unoffical like BMG. Why does it have to be
> official? Gentoo can choose to do what it feels is right and I will do the
> same.
BMG has, from day 1, been marginalised in the Gentoo community. I
always fancied that they should've been folded into the larger Gentoo
projects and become what Sunrise is today. The way I read you, your
fear is based on the possibility of some future perception by an unknown
number of people. Sunrise's idea is that stuff gets checked and
re-checked and remains accessible -- have you read through their site
and their commit histories and changesets? They're not exactly
dawdling.
As for Gentoo's reputation, I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear it
characterised that way :) If it has that reputation, then it will
actually take a lot to break that. I'm surprised that ~keywords didn't
already break it. I agree that the official portage tree is a QA
nightmare. Sunrise seems to be nipping that nightmare for a future date
-- ie by allowing people to commit and perform peer reviews, they're
grooming the next generation of developers to look at QA from the
outset, instead of as an afterthought.
> I answered only because someone asked for user's concerns well this is mine
> and you all can do with the input as you please without any hard feelings on
> my part.
It's an exchange of ideas, there shouldn't be hard feelings on anyone's
part.
--
Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-31 4:25 UTC|newest]
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2006-07-27 21:58 [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-27 22:21 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-27 22:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-28 9:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:54 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:47 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-30 22:58 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-07-31 2:00 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31 7:41 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-07-31 10:35 ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-31 2:21 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:10 ` Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-27 23:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 6:31 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Josh Saddler
2006-07-28 7:34 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 9:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Christel Dahlskjaer
[not found] ` <1154079324.8825.54.camel@lycan.lan>
2006-07-28 10:02 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 10:37 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 2:19 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 2:28 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-07-31 2:42 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 2:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 5:05 ` [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation) Seemant Kulleen
[not found] ` <20060731063003.2a5f018a@snowdrop.home>
2006-07-31 5:38 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 5:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 6:09 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 6:37 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 6:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 7:13 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31 8:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 13:54 ` Mike Kelly
2006-08-02 14:53 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02 0:24 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 0:41 ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02 0:49 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 1:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-02 9:21 ` Thierry Carrez
2006-08-02 9:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 9:41 ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-08-02 9:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 10:23 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-02 10:19 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 11:50 ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 11:51 ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 12:19 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-02 19:49 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 15:56 ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02 20:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 21:30 ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-02 18:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03 2:56 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03 3:09 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03 3:27 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03 4:11 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03 5:22 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-03 9:46 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-03 10:11 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03 11:00 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-03 16:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03 17:53 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-07-31 2:52 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-08-02 0:24 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 13:46 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-08-02 14:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02 14:34 ` Roy Marples
2006-08-02 19:53 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 20:04 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-07-31 2:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 2:50 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 3:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 3:23 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 3:32 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31 3:42 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 3:50 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31 4:21 ` Seemant Kulleen [this message]
2006-07-31 11:01 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Christian Andreetta
2006-07-31 12:53 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03 6:49 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03 8:07 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-02 0:46 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 3:50 ` Richard Fish
2006-08-02 18:04 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-07-31 5:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Rumen Yotov
2006-07-31 3:45 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 4:20 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31 4:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 4:36 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 4:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 4:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31 13:08 ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-07-31 14:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 5:15 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31 5:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation Ryan Hill
2006-07-31 5:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 6:10 ` Ryan Hill
2006-07-31 6:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 6:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 8:10 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-31 8:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 10:47 ` Georgi Georgiev
2006-08-03 6:58 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03 15:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 8:44 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31 9:21 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Jakub Moc
2006-07-31 9:56 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31 10:09 ` Jakub Moc
2006-07-31 2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:28 ` Roy Bamford
[not found] ` <1154340702l.9965l.0l@spike>
2006-07-31 11:01 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-31 12:30 ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-30 20:35 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-01 0:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Doug Goldstein
2006-08-01 8:41 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
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