From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-15347-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1G7Nma-0007AV-IO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:45:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V2iduc026048; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:44:39 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V2gjkb000294 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:42:46 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-147-189-107.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.147.189.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218AD6436A for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) From: Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <46059ce10607301928g2ddf667q326d930ffacb81b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <eabcs0$j25$1@sea.gmane.org> <200607301751.14157.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060730230757.5c17c0e9@snowdrop.home> <200607302219.56872.vapier@gentoo.org> <46059ce10607301928g2ddf667q326d930ffacb81b9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:42:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1154313772.11516.7.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 60667ed4-13ad-4e02-999c-43775c6459a1 X-Archives-Hash: 09eb34a3a848490bd936bf1ea218eede On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 22:28 -0400, Dan Meltzer wrote: > I do not see why it is considdered hard for users to "get involved". > Users have at least two choices that I can think of right now, and > probably a number that I cannot think of. What's wrong with adding a third? Furthermore, a third where users can actually get their hands dirty, and one which encourages more eyeballs on the "code"? I mean seriously, this whole discussion has gotten out of hand. People actually quit over this issue, which is pretty unfathomable to me. We have yet to actually *see* these alleged QA issues that people are clamouring over each other to escape from -- and sunrise has been about for a while already. Surely the nightmare would have started by now? What, honestly, are people worried about with Sunrise? Point me to some actual factual stuff that is verifiable. Not ad hominem or any sort of emotional crap -- just the facts, please. Thanks, -- Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org> Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list