[gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Enrico Weigelt]

Hi folks,


who's maintaining the gpm package ?


I've just released my first version of an standalone libgpm.

    http://nibiru.borg.metux.de:7000/wiki/index.php/OSS_QM/libgpm

The library provides an pkgconfig descriptor (libgpm.pc), so
its very easy to import it into other packages.

I'll release an daemon-only package of gpm later.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Thursday 29 June 2006 17:04, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> who's maintaining the gpm package ?

keep it on the gpm list :p
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> On Thursday 29 June 2006 17:04, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > who's maintaining the gpm package ?
> 
> keep it on the gpm list :p

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough: 
who is maintaining the gpm port ?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Thursday 29 June 2006 20:23, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> > On Thursday 29 June 2006 17:04, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > who's maintaining the gpm package ?
> >
> > keep it on the gpm list :p
>
> Perhaps I wasn't clear enough:

perhaps i wasnt clear enough:
it doesnt matter who the maintainer of gpm in Gentoo is until this is resolved 
upstream

> who is maintaining the gpm port ?

i am actually
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:

Hi,

> perhaps i wasnt clear enough:
> it doesnt matter who the maintainer of gpm in Gentoo is until 
> this is resolved upstream

The upstream seems to be quite dead at the moment. No traffic
goes through the lists, the last release quite old and lots of 
patches outstanding.

So I'm planning to jump in, if the situation doesn't get better
in the next days. 


> > who is maintaining the gpm port ?
> 
> i am actually

Good. 
Are you involved in the upstream too ?


BTW: libgpm is an fork-off from gpm, which just contains the client 
stuff. Maybe it will evolve to an more generic mouse library, ie. 
supporting other interfaces, like sysmouse directly.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Tuesday 04 July 2006 13:07, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> > perhaps i wasnt clear enough:
> > it doesnt matter who the maintainer of gpm in Gentoo is until
> > this is resolved upstream
>
> The upstream seems to be quite dead at the moment. No traffic
> goes through the lists, the last release quite old and lots of
> patches outstanding.

Nico is alive, he responds from time to time ... i also have git commit access 
so things posted to the list i can review

i dont see any outstanding patches on the mailing list

> So I'm planning to jump in, if the situation doesn't get better
> in the next days.

i dont know what you mean by "planning to jump in" but if you mean you're 
planning on making your own "releases" of gpm, well good luck ... Gentoo will 
be following Nico's releases since he is the maintainer of gpm

> BTW: libgpm is an fork-off from gpm, which just contains the client
> stuff. Maybe it will evolve to an more generic mouse library, ie.
> supporting other interfaces, like sysmouse directly.

my point is it shouldnt be a fork
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:

<snip>

> > The upstream seems to be quite dead at the moment. No traffic
> > goes through the lists, the last release quite old and lots of
> > patches outstanding.
> 
> Nico is alive, he responds from time to time ... i also have git 
> commit access so things posted to the list i can review

Good.
But the maillist doesn't seem to be up again :(

<snip> 

> i dont see any outstanding patches on the mailing list

I'm referring to the ones in the release tarball.

> > BTW: libgpm is an fork-off from gpm, which just contains the client
> > stuff. Maybe it will evolve to an more generic mouse library, ie.
> > supporting other interfaces, like sysmouse directly.
> 
> my point is it shouldnt be a fork

Yes, would be better, if it's included in the gpm release. 
But: it should be possible to build/install it independently from
gpm, and also to build gpm against an already installed libgpm.
So actually two separate packages, maybe distributed in one tarball.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:47, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> > > BTW: libgpm is an fork-off from gpm, which just contains the client
> > > stuff. Maybe it will evolve to an more generic mouse library, ie.
> > > supporting other interfaces, like sysmouse directly.
> >
> > my point is it shouldnt be a fork
>
> Yes, would be better, if it's included in the gpm release.
> But: it should be possible to build/install it independently from
> gpm, and also to build gpm against an already installed libgpm.
> So actually two separate packages, maybe distributed in one tarball.

considering gpm uses autotools, i really dont see why there needs to be all 
that many changes ... write it correctly and it'd be easy to fold into 
configure.ac/Makefile.am

./configure --disable-binaries
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:

<snip>

> > Yes, would be better, if it's included in the gpm release.
> > But: it should be possible to build/install it independently from
> > gpm, and also to build gpm against an already installed libgpm.
> > So actually two separate packages, maybe distributed in one tarball.
> 
> considering gpm uses autotools, i really dont see why there needs 
> to be all that many changes ... write it correctly and it'd be 
> easy to fold into configure.ac/Makefile.am
> 
> ./configure --disable-binaries

That doesn't seem to be clean enough for me. I need the libgpm,
and only libgpm, built, and then gpm server built against this
(already installed) libgpm, found via pkg-config. I've got very
strict policies at this point.

My further plan in short words:

+ further tests on libgpm
+ split off the gpm server and rewrite to build against an already
  installed libgpm (found via pkg-config)
+ put both into some cumulative package, which can be build 
  just as the current gpm package.
  
Meanwhile we also should try to get in the pkg-config stuff,
and let several parts to be switched off as you suggested,
optionally build the server against an installed libgpm, etc.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Enrico Weigelt]

I've just forwarded my last mail to the gpm list, since it better
should be discussed there. So please anwser to there too and 
let's table this topic here, until we've got something new from
the upstream


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

[Ned Ludd]

Please move this thread to the appropriate mailing list.. 
(ie not this list)



On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 14:31 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > > Yes, would be better, if it's included in the gpm release.
> > > But: it should be possible to build/install it independently from
> > > gpm, and also to build gpm against an already installed libgpm.
> > > So actually two separate packages, maybe distributed in one tarball.
> > 
> > considering gpm uses autotools, i really dont see why there needs 
> > to be all that many changes ... write it correctly and it'd be 
> > easy to fold into configure.ac/Makefile.am
> > 
> > ./configure --disable-binaries
> 
> That doesn't seem to be clean enough for me. I need the libgpm,
> and only libgpm, built, and then gpm server built against this
> (already installed) libgpm, found via pkg-config. I've got very
> strict policies at this point.
> 
> My further plan in short words:
> 
> + further tests on libgpm
> + split off the gpm server and rewrite to build against an already
>   installed libgpm (found via pkg-config)
> + put both into some cumulative package, which can be build 
>   just as the current gpm package.
>   
> Meanwhile we also should try to get in the pkg-config stuff,
> and let several parts to be switched off as you suggested,
> optionally build the server against an installed libgpm, etc.
> 
> 
> cu
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