From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FxZYh-0002mW-LM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 01:18:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k641GB2F022720; Tue, 4 Jul 2006 01:16:11 GMT Received: from nemesis.fprintf.net (nemesis.fprintf.net [66.134.112.218]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6419SN0009082 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2006 01:09:28 GMT Received: (qmail 2696 invoked by uid 210); 3 Jul 2006 21:27:12 -0400 Received: from 192.168.0.8 by nemesis (envelope-from , uid 201) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (clamdscan: 0.88.1/1579. spamassassin: 3.1.0. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:0(192.168.0.8):SA:0(-5.0/5.0):. Processed in 0.69897 secs); 04 Jul 2006 01:27:12 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 Received: from athena.fprintf.net (HELO ?192.168.0.8?) (dang@fprintf.net@192.168.0.8) by nemesis.fprintf.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2006 21:27:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd From: Daniel Gryniewicz To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200607032228.37612.hollow@gentoo.org> References: <1151948992.29593.23.camel@continental.nick125.com> <200607032148.11731.hollow@gentoo.org> <1151956582.29593.25.camel@continental.nick125.com> <200607032228.37612.hollow@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7syaHLERfPMxvmFu9kvr" Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:09:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1151975355.21600.12.camel@athena.fprintf.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.7.3 X-Archives-Salt: a50b6dbe-3b51-4b05-a671-6418cf575578 X-Archives-Hash: 0efb9f949372e074560c056fc093a334 --=-7syaHLERfPMxvmFu9kvr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 22:28 +0200, Benedikt B=C3=B6hm wrote: > On Monday 03 July 2006 21:56, Nick Devito wrote: > > Okay, in that case, extend the vserver herd to include a larger range o= f > > virtualization stuff, including Xen, Bochs, and so on. It just seems > > more fitting to group those packages together. >=20 > not really, bochs, qemu and vmware is emulation, merely used in virtualiz= ation=20 > environments >=20 > uml and xen do run with VMMs and don't share anything with=20 > OpenVZ/Linux-VServer >=20 > uml and xen could be integrated into the VPS project (with a different he= rd)=20 > but i don't know what their maintainers are thinking about this UML is not complicated or hard to maintain. I'm fairly happy maintaining it with the help of the kernel herd, and (being a linux kernel port) I think it really belongs in kernel, not in virtualization or vmm or vserver, or whatever. Maybe if there were some projects for full virtual server setups that could use xen or uml or vmware or ... as it's underlying hosting service, that could be useful, but just for maintenance, I don't think it's really necessary. I'm open to arguments in favor of such a project, tho, if people have real plans. Certainly, an easier way to generate and maintain root filesystems for UML would be nice. Daniel --=-7syaHLERfPMxvmFu9kvr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEqb+6omPajV0RnrERAkaAAJ9dLbBiKE7njMj6JQV/RemsBfTdhgCfQS2K CDYqcrw+mEVqm/1PKGKwV3o= =ijop -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7syaHLERfPMxvmFu9kvr-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list