From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-14325-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1Fuwc1-0005NJ-Mu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:19:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5QJHSvX030232; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:17:28 GMT Received: from smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5QJDSCp001063 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:13:28 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id k5QJDekZ024057 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:13:40 -0400 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:11:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <449E214B.6020401@gentoo.org> References: <449DFDD1.1090506@gentoo.org> <1151206378.29095.32.camel@localhost> <449E214B.6020401@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-A+edE1IARiYjRxtJSESr" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:10:59 -0400 Message-Id: <1151349060.11622.63.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Archives-Salt: c241637a-00ef-4985-960b-d8d26d4ef9e8 X-Archives-Hash: 88a2daa7ed9da720d3b5cae050fa7d2c --=-A+edE1IARiYjRxtJSESr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 22:38 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > I would be in favor of a gentoo-dev-announce list if it allowed me=20 > > to unsubscribe from this list. >=20 > Sure, if you want to just accept any decisions rather than participate > in making them. The -dev-announce list should be for finalized > decisions. It should be too late to dispute them once they're sent to it. >=20 > For important discussions, it may be worth announcing that they're > starting -- e.g., for a GLEP -- so people could then be sure to pay > attention to that discussion on -dev. At one point, a long time ago, a few of us had actually started discussing a mailing list reorganization. It somewhat died out simply because we didn't keep up with it. However, it went something like this: - Create a new list ("gentoo-core-announce" ?) Reading: dev-only Posting: dev-only, reply-to set to gentoo-core This is the reference list of things (policy, decisions and discussions in progress) all developers must know about. - Keep -core and -dev, as non-required reading - Confirm the role of "gentoo-announce" as the official reference list of things all users must know about (especially difficult upgrades just before they reach stable). Posting is moderated. Now, do we really need it to be -core-announce? Not really. In fact, at one point we'd come up with both a -core-announce and a -dev-announce, with -core-announce being for more sensitive information. Some other ideas that were tossed about was changing "gentoo-announce" into "gentoo-security-announce" (since it is currently GLSA-only, really) with reply-to set to gentoo-security and create a "gentoo-user-announce" with reply-to set to gentoo-user, where we would put more information, such as the information that would be given via the portage tree in GLEP42. However, it was also brought up that anyone interested in security is probably also interested in things that might break their system (heh) so instead of splitting it to two lists, it would remain a single list. As you can guess, we never got around to actually writing up a GLEP for this or anything. We didn't reach any kind of impasse, we just quit working on it. I just thought I would pass this along so people know what was discussed previously and would also like to apologize for being one of the slackers who let this die a while back without so much as sending it to the list for discussion. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-A+edE1IARiYjRxtJSESr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEoDFDkT4lNIS36YERArf6AJ0cfrfQDv3aIEOcK06/n8JIGTcP8wCgjuBr Oor3/MyN19Qe8ivzoAALZT8= =N1ab -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-A+edE1IARiYjRxtJSESr-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list