From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FoloY-0002fE-JB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 18:34:35 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k59IV8xJ014351; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:31:08 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k59IQ26h022092 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:03 GMT Received: from [192.168.10.54] (unknown [65.115.53.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E749365654 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification From: Daniel Ostrow To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4489BA11.5010702@gentoo.org> References: <44894E7C.5070302@gentoo.org> <1149872786.22473.38.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <200606091955.17280.peper@aster.pl> <4489BA11.5010702@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: The Gentoo Foundation, Inc. Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:26:29 -0400 Message-Id: <1149877589.7520.5.camel@Kefka.anyarch.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: af99ac64-cf00-4f1c-bf48-7f6e0388a349 X-Archives-Hash: 09f5ee1e3d662de14886874e3623648f On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 20:12 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: > Peper wrote: > >>> well. A couple of examples: > >>> > >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122500 > >> And again, you use my project of an example. Perhaps you should try > >> looking at something that actually supports your argument? > > > > I think it's an example of how user-friendly is bugzilla... > > Yeah, exactly... I don't understand where did this idea of me using > someone else's own project against himself came from in the first place. > *confused* > > I've merely posted a few examples illustrating that bugzilla and > attachments suck big time for new ebuilds' development. Or, why did you > switch vmware-server work to SVN if bugzilla is *the* place for all > this? Apparently it's not all that great, otherwise you wouldn't have > done that. > See you are just missing the point. He switched it to a VMware specific SVN repo maintained by people who know VMware inside and out, otherwise known as the VMware team. There is a HUGE difference between an overlay with ${random_ebuilds} maintained by a small group who cannot possibly know all of the ins and outs of every package and their impact on every architecture and a targeted overlay for a very specific purpose which only contains ebuilds for which the maintainers have 100% complete understanding. Targeted overlays maintained by people who understand the packages in question in totality == good, Catchall overlays maintained by a few people who cannot possibly (and this isn't meant as a dig against anyone it's just a fact) understand the implications and interactions of *all* the packages in said overlay == BAD! --Dan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list