From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Folqj-0000uM-Pi for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 18:36:50 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k59IWvDw021204; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:32:57 GMT Received: from smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k59IQcq5001202 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id k59IQhN6031233 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:26:43 -0400 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:24:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <20060608212132.GF6526@osgiliath> <200606091329.43783.carlo@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-f2eP3J5ehAvPld/y1fy9" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:24:15 -0400 Message-Id: <1149877455.22473.60.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Archives-Salt: de3fe175-2bf5-48b1-8dd8-8f10fb680111 X-Archives-Hash: f2a7471493bf8dbef645357f7a10b807 --=-f2eP3J5ehAvPld/y1fy9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 14:04 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > You should at least make it visible in bold letters on the overlay.g.o > > front page, what the conditions of each overlay are and which foo@g.o > > address bugs have to be assigned to.=20 >=20 >=20 > Please, do not assume our users being stupid. They know that they are usi= ng > an ebuild from the sunrise overlay with zero support. They deliberately > typed=20 >=20 > "svn co http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/category/application" > "emerge application" Umm... and what if they checkout the entire repository and get something they weren't expecting? I love how you simply just dismiss this possibility as something that either can't happen, or something that won't happen because the users will "know what they're doing" when they use this overlay. > And also there are only applications from maintainer-wanted or > maintainer-needed allowed in the overlay. Because packages are not suppos= ed > to overwrite files from other ebuilds it is unlikely that they can cause > any damage to applications that have not been directly installed from the > overlay. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!! Oh wait... Are you serious? What if it is a library? What if it is an alternative to a library already in the tree? Hrrrmn... plot thickens. > > Also some warning that an overlay may > > break the tree or fubar the users system=20 > That is not the intention of the overlay. Everyone can help fixing breaka= ge, > it is not like with the current tree, where you have apps broken for a fe= w > days, weeks or even months because the maintainer is unreachable. With > fixes (by users) spread all over bugzilla. Everyone that you happen to include as allowed to actually commit, you mean. As opposed to "everyone that can sign themselves up for bugzilla"? > It is designed to be more open and more easily fixable. Sure. More open then a self-registering system. Gotcha. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-f2eP3J5ehAvPld/y1fy9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEibzPkT4lNIS36YERAmmrAKCb+dWQqQr+8/FQAPVltQwP3tCG1QCffw8h vDAiS/d2StzO6mOKwhiChE8= =7EOs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-f2eP3J5ehAvPld/y1fy9-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list