From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FgQoG-0006dV-5u for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:31:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4HISADL006483; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:28:10 GMT Received: from smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4HIEvPr032104 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:14:57 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id k4HIF1nt027678 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 14:15:01 -0400 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 17 May 2006 14:12:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20060517172926.477daaed@snowdrop.home> References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <20060517000910.5e1f1ccb@sven.genone.homeip.net> <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org> <200605171204.33647.pauldv@gentoo.org> <1147877875.16876.21.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20060517160936.033a1cc1@snowdrop.home> <1147881924.16876.45.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20060517172926.477daaed@snowdrop.home> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5BKqVNwzDCDRqJrh9NKW" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:12:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1147889572.16876.60.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Archives-Salt: 42f6bca7-d2d8-48a8-ac2d-15454589a89c X-Archives-Hash: 969daf75449471d6c4b86e143f14fa50 --=-5BKqVNwzDCDRqJrh9NKW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 17:29 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:05:23 -0400 Chris Gianelloni > wrote: > | We ship .tbz2 files on our GRP release media. > |=20 > | Until we either: > |=20 > | a) stop shipping .tbz2 files > |=20 > | -or- > |=20 > | b) switch to paludis support only >=20 > Which is a rather large difference from what you said originally. It's No. It isn't. I said that it can not build a Gentoo release, and paludis can not.[1] Are you trying to tell me that I am wrong and that paludis *can* build a Gentoo release? I'm really interested to hear what magic you have used to distort reality to make this possible. > also utterly untrue, given how easy it would be to do installs the > non-stage-based way using Paludis. That's one of the many reasons we're > not going to be using the tbz2 format. What you said has *no* bearing *whatsoever* on whether or not paludis can build a Gentoo release. Are you really going to insist on trying this approach with this conversation? I say that paludis can not be used to build a Gentoo release, and your answer is that it would be easy to *not* build a Gentoo release? Huh? I'm sorry, but what the hell does that have to do with *anything* that I am saying? How about I make this a bit more directed, then? #1. Can paludis work with catalyst? #2. Can paludis build all of the release materials required by the Release Engineering release guidelines? #3. Can paludis build a portage-compatible VDB that can be used by the Gentoo Linux Installer? If it can not do *any* of these three things, then it CAN NOT build a Gentoo release. There's no smooth talking or circular reasoning way around this simple FACT. All that you have succeeded in doing is alienating me from this discussion by completely ignoring everything that I have been saying to try to push... whatever it is that you're trying to push... as fact. I'm sorry, but you've lost any support that you might have had from me on this simply by your refusal to even speak on the topics which I have brought up. I really don't understand how ignoring points brought up that would help facilitate something that you want does anything to further your goals, but that seems to be your way of thinking. Good day. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/release_guidelines.xml --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-5BKqVNwzDCDRqJrh9NKW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEa2ekkT4lNIS36YERAlgqAJ42SKY7PK4oPAkm/ZHaZF1UeIqNdQCgj4Ue M4u0PvxwesxmC/NpihPhs1I= =kSdx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5BKqVNwzDCDRqJrh9NKW-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list