Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

[Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>]

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On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 17:29 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:05:23 -0400 Chris Gianelloni
> <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> | We ship .tbz2 files on our GRP release media.
> | 
> | Until we either:
> | 
> | a) stop shipping .tbz2 files
> | 
> | -or-
> | 
> | b) switch to paludis support only
> 
> Which is a rather large difference from what you said originally. It's

No.  It isn't.  I said that it can not build a Gentoo release, and
paludis can not.[1]  Are you trying to tell me that I am wrong and that
paludis *can* build a Gentoo release?  I'm really interested to hear
what magic you have used to distort reality to make this possible.

> also utterly untrue, given how easy it would be to do installs the
> non-stage-based way using Paludis. That's one of the many reasons we're
> not going to be using the tbz2 format.

What you said has *no* bearing *whatsoever* on whether or not paludis
can build a Gentoo release.

Are you really going to insist on trying this approach with this
conversation?  I say that paludis can not be used to build a Gentoo
release, and your answer is that it would be easy to *not* build a
Gentoo release?  Huh?

I'm sorry, but what the hell does that have to do with *anything* that I
am saying?

How about I make this a bit more directed, then?

#1. Can paludis work with catalyst?
#2. Can paludis build all of the release materials required by the
Release Engineering release guidelines?
#3. Can paludis build a portage-compatible VDB that can be used by the
Gentoo Linux Installer?

If it can not do *any* of these three things, then it CAN NOT build a
Gentoo release.  There's no smooth talking or circular reasoning way
around this simple FACT.

All that you have succeeded in doing is alienating me from this
discussion by completely ignoring everything that I have been saying to
try to push... whatever it is that you're trying to push... as fact.
I'm sorry, but you've lost any support that you might have had from me
on this simply by your refusal to even speak on the topics which I have
brought up.  I really don't understand how ignoring points brought up
that would help facilitate something that you want does anything to
further your goals, but that seems to be your way of thinking.

Good day.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/release_guidelines.xml

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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