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([2a02:278:41a0:64d:e93d:a56b:ed71:e467]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n4-20020a05600c294400b003fbdbd0a7desm14227362wmd.27.2023.09.11.14.43.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Sep 2023 14:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11478542-782d-49af-36e3-d02d117f45da@asokolov.org> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 22:43:19 +0100 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev Content-Language: en-GB To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <20230911082243.65aa85f5@Akita> <4128737.ElGaqSPkdT@kona> <20230911084231.73dd619f@Akita> <5848191c-8708-edfe-0c69-eeced3907b0d@gmail.com> <87zg1szc23.fsf@gentoo.org> <20230911141451.7c88dd7a@Akita> <87edj4z9q6.fsf@gentoo.org> <877cowz92h.fsf@gentoo.org> From: Alexey Sokolov In-Reply-To: <877cowz92h.fsf@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 05bf3752-9e90-4551-b327-8fabf45a229f X-Archives-Hash: c2eea8b2e952dc65e2fcbfb5938ce25d 11.09.2023 22:35, Sam James пишет: > > Alexey Sokolov writes: > >> 11.09.2023 22:21, Sam James пишет: >>> orbea writes: >>> >>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:31:30 +0100 >>>> Sam James wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dale writes: >>>>> >>>>>> orbea wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 17:29:47 +0200 >>>>>>> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Upstream is maintained still. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, it's not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on what? It has several commits this year and is currently >>>>>>> working on both of my systems. Is there something specific showing >>>>>>> why its not maintained? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On the link above it says this: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2021-08-20 Gentoo decided to abandon eudev and a new project was >>>>>> established on 2021-09-14 by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors >>>>>> (alphabetical order). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems to have a upstream that is active but no one is >>>>>> maintaining it on Gentoo.  Basically, it needs a Gentoo maintainer >>>>>> now.  It would seem given the time span that no one wants to take >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore. >>>>>> I hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use >>>>>> udev. >>>>> >>>>> No, see the linked bugs. Someone has to actually make it compatible >>>>> with the tags API which software is starting to use. >>>> >>>> I think its only a matter of time. >>>> >>>> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev/pull/253 >>>> >>>> I'll apply the patch and test the builds if it helps, but I don't know >>>> about testing the runtime functionality of libgudev. >>> Someone has to then bother reviewing it, merging it, releasing it, >>> and >>> ideally updating eudev for other stuff like this. >> >> Of course. Just like any other PR to any other project :) What's your point? > > I don't know what you mean. My point is none of that has been happening. > I see, ok. I would agree with you, however, the author of that PR is a member of eudev org, so I wouldn't say it's dead just yet. >> >>> Also note that the PR is a hack rather than a full implementation >>> of the functionality anyway, which may lead to runtime misbehaviour. >> >> And that's fine for programs which don't make use of the new API. >> > > and? Someone has to actually check that? > > > -- Best regards, Alexey "DarthGandalf" Sokolov