From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FSLvs-0002Q2-24 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:29:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k38MTNeR025617; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:29:23 GMT Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k38MRWYM004992 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:27:32 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSLu0-0001kT-D7 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:27:32 +0100 Received: from [82.32.206.2] (helo=[192.168.1.210]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSLtz-0003Hj-SZ for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:27:31 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations From: Christel Dahlskjaer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <44380A0F.6000501@gmail.com> References: <1144377010.5485.82.camel@gaspode> <20060407102154.4690b806@snowdrop.home> <44380A0F.6000501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:27:31 +0100 Message-Id: <1144535251.12982.16.camel@gaspode> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8ca975ef-e86b-4238-8a14-6fe0d2f7faae X-Archives-Hash: 8758cd5879bcf54fdc51eb760af1ca24 On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 14:07 -0500, lnxg33k wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > * If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> > > developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development > > tools or development documentation. > > I'm a little late jumping into this and I haven't read all the threads yet, > however I agree with Ciaran here. From a user who wishes to progress, this > particular point is something I can relate to. Consolidating docs into a single > place, getting rid of stale stuff, and updating the old would do a lot to bring > users up-to-speed. By providing docs, users who wish to take the initiative can > do so. Once they learn the lingo and system, they can better offer their > services and it would decrease frustration on the devs part concerning ignorant > (not demeaning, but fact) users. > > Improving development tools helps, but also making them available where > applicable. I'm thinking more along the lines of scripts located on dev spaces > as applications like catalyst are already available. Stuff that normally is > considered "developer only" should be opened up so that users can get a better > sense of what is actually going on; this would lessen the degree of naiveness. Yes, making information (such as documentation etc) more accessible, easier to find and centralized is certainly something that would be beneficial. As is making sure that it is all up to date. Thank you for pointing it out. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list