From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FO0DQ-0007IC-66 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:29:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2RMT96f016918; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:29:09 GMT Received: from prebackup.warande.net (prebackup.warande.net [145.97.193.201]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2RMR8tb007719 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:27:08 GMT Received: from rivendell (216pc222.sshunet.nl [145.97.222.216]) by prebackup.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C9F4C009 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:27:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification From: foser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200603272225.12500.danarmak@gentoo.org> References: <200603270003.38655.danarmak@gentoo.org> <1143471302.29952.25.camel@rivendell> <200603272225.12500.danarmak@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-O0owRYQ+DgQduJumANLU" Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:27:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1143498427.22350.14.camel@rivendell> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 X-Archives-Salt: c6b943cb-023a-4453-9824-18c6085246b9 X-Archives-Hash: e4c448db478faafd6db4360465af43af --=-O0owRYQ+DgQduJumANLU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 22:25 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > Assume the install prefix problem is fixed somehow. What items are displa= yed=20 > in each WM's menu? >=20 > Option 1: KDE only displays KDE apps, Gnome only Gnome apps. How do we de= cide=20 > what is displayed in both ('neutral' apps) > Can the user edit the menu, and=20 > include some things we don't include by default, in a WM-neutral way? Wha= t=20 > should WMs other than KDE and Gnome display by default? >=20 > Option 2: always display everything. Problems: huge menu. KDE and Gnome a= nd=20 > others use different categorization. A change of the status quo, so user=20 > community should get a chance to veto. And when using descriptions as pri= mary=20 > menu text (e.g. 'Text editor' instead of 'kwrite'/'gedit') some KDE and G= nome=20 > programs have similar or identical descriptions, which looks bad to new=20 > users. I'm aware of the issues surrounding menus, but the spec gives a lot of options. As said, we haven't dealt with it, because it is not a snag that we hit currently.=20 I think we can basically have several menu setups fit for different tasks/DEs and either let loginmanagers choose on startup or users choose on install. I don't know what the future plans are of KDE regarding it's slotting, but if it intends to use syswide (fdo) specs like mime/icons the install alternate root is going to be the main hurdle to tackle. - foser --=-O0owRYQ+DgQduJumANLU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEKGa78WG+0iaGxDMRAsLxAJ9KYZa7xSq3CPdmvuv1DVCb9xVdOACg1VkP GUfvwB7l4FVythgAK5rW1FQ= =RuY4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-O0owRYQ+DgQduJumANLU-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list