From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FMeTO-0003ty-T7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:04:31 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2O53rgD006934; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:03:53 GMT Received: from ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2O51rhS003569 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:01:54 GMT Received: from localhost64.wan (cpe-66-25-88-87.satx.res.rr.com [66.25.88.87]) by ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2O51qH9020305 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:01:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making the developer community more open From: Daniel Goller To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <46059ce10603231534i6257540p23a1b1b254ba314a@mail.gmail.com> References: <441F35B9.8000406@gentoo.org> <1143024569.27445.23.camel@getafix.chiltonfoliat.org> <3b09e8e90603220558s5ac1e6d8ya5b44dd0bcbea9e9@mail.gmail.com> <46059ce10603220615t2ebd0ebh643710033883f622@mail.gmail.com> <1143152424.1688.4.camel@localhost64.wan> <46059ce10603231534i6257540p23a1b1b254ba314a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-JUDDd/C+GXNOZFkwZIX/" Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:01:39 -0600 Message-Id: <1143176499.1688.55.camel@localhost64.wan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Archives-Salt: 3596995d-b846-43aa-8d8b-8d66b242d4f8 X-Archives-Hash: e9e67b52d849f06caee35d9554772e43 --=-JUDDd/C+GXNOZFkwZIX/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 18:34 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 3/23/06, Daniel Goller wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 09:15 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > > Asking developers to "proxy" takes almost as much time as it does to > > > ask them to maintain a package by themselves. > > > > wrong > > > > > The developer is > > > directly responsible for anything he commits, so he will have to stil= l > > > test the ebuild, still test any revisions, and still follow the > > > package to make sure there are no problems. The writing the ebuild > > > part of the process is not that much of the commitment, I don't see > > > the point. > > > > > > > we are not just talking about new ebuilds/bumps > > having someone do all the work and having to only verify the end result= s > > of the users work is a big help, instead of having to look into the > > problem, checking if a fix exists elsewhere, or digging through the > > source yourself, you verify the fix solves the problem and does only > > that. > > > > and everyone wins >=20 > So it sounds like you are asking them to do everything developers do, >=20 > why not just make them be developers? > > because they do not want more than take care of their one package and do not want more than someone taking care of their work, maybe? or maybe because they don't like a lot of devs due to bad experiences, and would not want to be any part of the group, but still enjoy working on packages there are people who i would love to see as devs, but are not particularly interested on having to deal with some of the devs, having a proxy allows them to help gentoo w/o being exposed to the people they otherwise would have to deal with --=-JUDDd/C+GXNOZFkwZIX/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEI30z/aM9DdBw91cRAsAkAJ0Q+XmcAV6QZWqNVg3798yWzSO1kwCgrLRf EmXAwsbCncj/jqwMHJIYAE0= =SfPj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-JUDDd/C+GXNOZFkwZIX/-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list