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From: Duncan Coutts <dcoutts@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:21:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1143141662.30569.187.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1143140156.14434.59.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net>

On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 13:55 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:

> I'm sorry, but I am not OK with just standing by and watching us give
> complete access to do anything with no accountability.  If you are,
> perhaps you really need to rethink your commitment to our users and your
> fellow developers.

The way the Haskell team manages this is that we don't tell our end
users about our testing overlay. So we don't get bug reports from them.
We have three outside contributers with write access to the overlay
repo. They make changes in consultation with the team. So we're not
giving complete access without accountability.

We have a couple other users who use the overlay but they know what
they're doing. We don't make the overlay that easy to use on purpose
because we don't want inexperienced users using it. So apart from not
advertising it, we don't keep digests in the repo.

I think the point is that these overlays should be a useful way of
getting contributers more closely involved. However we should not
encourage end users to use these overlays without thinking. For example
using more than one at once seems like a really bad idea. Perhaps if we
make them sufficiently hard to use then end users will not use them and
we'll just get the contributers we want.

-- 
Duncan Coutts : Gentoo Developer (Haskell herd team lead)
email         : dcoutts at gentoo dot org

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-23 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-20 23:07 [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open Daniel Drake
2006-03-20 23:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-20 23:44   ` George Prowse
2006-03-20 23:45 ` Bret Towe
2006-03-20 23:58   ` Stefan Schweizer
2006-03-21  0:12     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-21  0:05   ` m h
2006-03-21  3:32     ` Alec Warner
2006-03-21  3:40       ` Jason Stubbs
2006-03-21  1:06   ` Mike Auty
2006-03-21 12:09   ` Simon Stelling
2006-03-21 22:32     ` Daniel Goller
2006-03-22 10:49   ` Jonathan Coome
2006-03-22 12:53     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-03-22 13:56       ` Michael Crute
2006-03-22 14:13         ` Thomas Cort
2006-03-22 13:58       ` Thomas Cort
2006-03-22 14:15         ` Dan Meltzer
2006-03-22 14:55           ` Jonathan Coome
2006-03-23 22:20           ` Daniel Goller
2006-03-23 23:34             ` Dan Meltzer
2006-03-24  5:01               ` Daniel Goller
2006-03-21  1:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " George Shapovalov
2006-03-21  1:27   ` George Shapovalov
2006-03-21  0:52     ` m h
2006-03-24 23:08   ` Daniel Drake
2006-03-21  6:05 ` Alin Nastac
2006-03-21 16:27   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-21 12:15 ` Thomas Cort
2006-03-21 17:14 ` Brandon Edens
2006-03-21 19:38   ` Daniel Drake
2006-03-21 22:20   ` Daniel Goller
2006-03-22 14:19 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-22 17:03   ` [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-22 17:24     ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-03-22 17:33     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-23 22:25       ` Aron Griffis
2006-03-22 17:39     ` Duncan Coutts
2006-03-22 18:42     ` Stefan Schweizer
2006-03-22 22:49       ` Duncan Coutts
2006-03-22 22:03     ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23  8:10       ` Danny van Dyk
2006-03-23  9:07         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 10:09           ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-03-23 10:56             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 12:47               ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-03-23 13:13                 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 17:16                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-03-23 18:20                   ` Rumen Yotov
2006-03-23 18:43                     ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-03-23 19:30                       ` Rumen Yotov
2006-03-23 21:47                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-03-23 14:41             ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-23 17:47               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-23 23:34               ` Aron Griffis
2006-03-23  9:28       ` Luis Medinas
2006-03-23 10:11         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23  9:36       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-23  9:58         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 10:22           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-23 11:02             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 11:07               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-23 11:18                 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 14:17       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-23 14:41         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 14:54           ` Eric Edgar
2006-03-23 20:31             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-23 15:31           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-23 15:51             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-23 18:15               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-23 18:31                 ` Stefan Schweizer
2006-03-23 18:41                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-23 18:57                     ` Jakub Moc
2006-03-23 19:10                       ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-03-23 19:27                         ` Stefan Schweizer
2006-03-23 19:42                         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24  1:03                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-24  8:59                         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 13:46                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-24 14:53                             ` Alec Warner
2006-03-24 16:19                               ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 16:33                             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 14:40                           ` Aron Griffis
2006-03-24  9:16                         ` Jakub Moc
2006-03-24 13:49                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-24 15:37                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-24 16:14                             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 16:15                             ` Jakub Moc
2006-03-24 16:29                               ` Andrej Kacian
2006-03-23 18:55                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-23 19:21                     ` Duncan Coutts [this message]
2006-03-23 20:07                       ` Jakub Moc
2006-03-23 20:19                         ` Andres Loeh
2006-03-24  8:52                           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 11:46                             ` Andres Loeh
2006-03-24 13:55                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-24 14:12                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-24 14:47                                 ` Aron Griffis
2006-03-24 19:18                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-25  2:54                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-03-25 19:37                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-25 19:46                                       ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-03-24 14:56                                 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 15:38                                 ` Andres Loeh
2006-03-24 15:58                                 ` Jakub Moc
2006-03-24 14:49                               ` Stuart Herbert
2006-03-24 15:41                                 ` Andres Loeh
2006-03-25 19:41                                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-25 21:23                                   ` Michael Cummings
2006-03-23 16:06             ` Jeroen Roovers
2006-03-23 16:40             ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-03-23 16:56               ` Martin Ehmsen
2006-03-23 18:25               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-03-23 18:55                 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-03-23 19:37                   ` Duncan Coutts
2006-03-23 21:42                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-03-23 21:49                     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-23 22:01                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-23 21:53                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-23 20:50             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-23 21:32               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-03-24  8:44                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-23 15:27         ` Jakub Moc

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