[gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[Lars Strojny]

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Hi all,

I'm currently heavily involved with jabber-related packages. As a result
I have to struggle with the really seldomn maintained packages in
Gentoo. As an example: ejabberd 1.0 is not in portage until now, it was
released in early december last year. There is not really a reason for
this, because it runs (with a few modifications) stable and could be
used in production.
Another issue are transports. As you know there are only two flavours of
Jabber-transports: rotten or broken. But as a result of introducing the
py*-t-transports things become better, but: Gentoo did not have them.
There is an really outdated version of pymsn around there (as a
low-quality ebuild, btw.) and some ebuilds in the wild[1], but they are
still lower quality (installing dot-svn-files, complete strange
installation target and so on).

To come to an end: jabber is not really the most unimportant thing, so
things should go better. I want to provide my ebuilds[2] for Gentoo's
main tree and I would also offer my help on jabber-stuff (if it's need
and it's not just a matter of motivation or so). Anyway, it must become
better.

[1]http://gentoo.zugaina.org/net-im.html.en
[2]http://svn.breakmygentoo.net/bmg-main/net-im/ejabberd/ejabberd-1.0.0-r1.ebuild
http://svn.breakmygentoo.net/bmg-main/net-im/pymsn-t/pymsn-t-0.11a.ebuild
http://svn.breakmygentoo.net/bmg-main/net-im/pyicq-t/pyicq-t-0.7.ebuild

Sincerley, 
  Lars Strojny
-- 
      "Kriterium des Wahren ist nicht seine unmittelbare
          Kommunizierbarkeit an jedermann"
         -- Theodor Wiesengrund Adorno, aus: »Negative Dialektik«

name: Lars H. Strojny      web: http://strojny.net 
street: Engelsstraße 23    blog: http://usrportage.de
city: D-51103 Köln         mail/jabber: lars@strojny.net
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Re: [gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Lars Strojny wrote:
> I'm currently heavily involved with jabber-related packages. As a result
> I have to struggle with the really seldomn maintained packages in
> Gentoo.

...

> To come to an end: jabber is not really the most unimportant thing, so
> things should go better. I want to provide my ebuilds[2] for Gentoo's
> main tree and I would also offer my help on jabber-stuff (if it's need
> and it's not just a matter of motivation or so). Anyway, it must become
> better.

You might want to talk to the maintainer and herd, not all of us. Or
even file a bug for updates -- some people are very busy and just don't
notice there's a new version.

$ herdstat -m ejabberd
Package:          net-im/ejabberd
Herds(1):         net-im
Maintainers(1):   humpback@gentoo.org
...


Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[Lars Strojny]

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Hi,

Am Sonntag, den 26.02.2006, 21:25 -0800 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
[...]
> You might want to talk to the maintainer and herd, not all of us. Or
> even file a bug for updates -- some people are very busy and just don't
> notice there's a new version.

It's not just a question of "new version", it's the thing that the whole
jabber-family seems to be unmaintained. For example if you want to use
yahoo-transport with ejabberd it needs jabberd-1.4 as a dependency (ok).
But if you try to install it, you have *no chance*, because the
jabberd-1.4 ebuild does not use the jabber-base stuff.

That's the reason I fall on the nerves of the whole list.

Sincerley,
 Lars Strojny
-- 
      "Kriterium des Wahren ist nicht seine unmittelbare
          Kommunizierbarkeit an jedermann"
         -- Theodor Wiesengrund Adorno, aus: »Negative Dialektik«

name: Lars H. Strojny      web: http://strojny.net 
street: Engelsstraße 23    blog: http://usrportage.de
city: D-51103 Köln         mail/jabber: lars@strojny.net
f-print: 1FD5 D8EE D996 8E3E 1417  328A 240F 17EB 0263 AC07

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Re: [gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[Lars Strojny]

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Am Sonntag, den 26.02.2006, 21:25 -0800 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
[...]
> You might want to talk to the maintainer and herd, not all of us. Or
> even file a bug for updates -- some people are very busy and just don't
> notice there's a new version.

Tried to talk to the maintainer, no answer for days. What would you
suggest to do now?

Greets, Lars
-- 
      "Kriterium des Wahren ist nicht seine unmittelbare
          Kommunizierbarkeit an jedermann"
         -- Theodor Wiesengrund Adorno, aus: »Negative Dialektik«

name: Lars H. Strojny      web: http://strojny.net 
street: Engelsstraße 23    blog: http://usrportage.de
city: D-51103 Köln         mail/jabber: lars@strojny.net
f-print: 1FD5 D8EE D996 8E3E 1417  328A 240F 17EB 0263 AC07

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Re: [gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[Olivier Crete]

On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 21:14 +0100, Lars Strojny wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 26.02.2006, 21:25 -0800 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
> [...]
> > You might want to talk to the maintainer and herd, not all of us. Or
> > even file a bug for updates -- some people are very busy and just don't
> > notice there's a new version.
> 
> Tried to talk to the maintainer, no answer for days. What would you
> suggest to do now?

Then you ask the herd.. But it seems humpback is still responsive, look
at his reply to bug #101708


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Re: [gentoo-dev] What's on with ejabberd and relatives?

[Gustavo Felisberto]

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Lars Strojny wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 26.02.2006, 21:25 -0800 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
> [...]
>> You might want to talk to the maintainer and herd, not all of us. Or
>> even file a bug for updates -- some people are very busy and just don't
>> notice there's a new version.
> 
> Tried to talk to the maintainer, no answer for days. What would you
> suggest to do now?
> 
> Greets, Lars

Just because I don't answer does not mean I dont read. Work is in progress at
the proper places (bugzilla is the place, private e-mail or this list is not).


-- 
Gustavo Felisberto
(HumpBack)
Web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~humpback
Blog: http://blog.felisberto.net/
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