From: Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:13:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141017187.4846.27.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4402732A.6050707@gentoo.org>
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 19:34 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Mark Loeser wrote:
> > Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> said:
> >> The maintainer should be the absolute authority over his/her packages,
> >> and only the council should be able to overrule maintainer decisions in
> >> the case of disagreement between the maintainer and anybody else.
> >
> > I think it really depends on the situation, but in general I disagree
> > that something should be left in a state that the QA team finds
> > questionable/broken. It should be a very rare occurence that this comes
> > up, since we don't really want to override what the maintainer says, but
> > I think the QA team should have this right in extreme circumstances.
>
> So if QA thinks one way is right, and the package maintainer thinks
> another way is right, you say QA always trumps?
>
> I'm looking at this as "innocent until proven guilty" versus "guilty
> until proven innocent." When parties are in disagreement, the _current_
> situation should stand until the council (or the two groups in question)
> resolves it. That assumes lack of extenuating circumstances such as
> security vulnerabilities or major tree breakage.
The devs asked for a council. A council was elected. The council decided
that QA trumps devs. If anybody has a problem with that they are free to
object at the next council meeting.
--
Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Linux
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2006-02-26 22:22 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:13 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:51 ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27 0:42 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 23:11 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:35 ` johnm
2006-02-27 0:09 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 0:29 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 0:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 1:53 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 2:10 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 3:34 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 5:13 ` Ned Ludd [this message]
2006-02-27 6:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 16:47 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-27 17:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:21 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:02 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 9:19 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-28 16:04 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:05 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 5:09 ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 8:58 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-26 23:41 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-26 23:51 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 0:12 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 9:09 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:09 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 17:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:48 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 0:34 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 1:21 ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27 9:00 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:21 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 18:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:31 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:26 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 20:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 20:45 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 21:02 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 21:04 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 21:18 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-27 21:34 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 22:38 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 23:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-27 21:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 21:12 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 21:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 9:49 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 14:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:08 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:23 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 16:24 ` [gentoo-dev] Policies (was: [RFC] QA Team's role) Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 16:39 ` Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 15:29 ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 7:37 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 16:44 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 16:00 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 11:45 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:43 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 6:11 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:49 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 9:38 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 12:54 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 13:34 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:00 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 14:33 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:21 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 14:55 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:12 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 15:26 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 16:11 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:00 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:30 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:59 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:09 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 18:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 19:03 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-02-28 18:14 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-02-28 18:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:55 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:01 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:02 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 19:11 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2006-02-28 19:21 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:24 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:09 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:42 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 20:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 12:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-01 12:24 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 13:16 ` Simon Stelling
2006-02-28 17:02 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 17:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:51 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:59 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 20:10 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 20:39 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:02 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 21:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:50 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:55 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 22:10 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 22:12 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 22:14 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-28 22:36 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:34 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 23:45 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:57 ` Mark Loeser
2006-03-01 0:13 ` Lance Albertson
2006-03-01 0:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 0:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 7:17 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 2:22 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-28 22:42 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 22:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 23:10 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 23:45 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 21:58 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 23:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 12:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 18:00 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:39 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 19:27 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:38 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 19:42 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 16:40 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 16:22 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 7:21 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 10:29 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-03-01 11:02 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 12:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:21 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:57 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 10:34 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 18:05 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 18:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 19:05 ` Mark Loeser
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