From: Olivier Crete <tester@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:06:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1138140361.4715.13.camel@cocagne.max-t.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43D69CD0.7030404@gentoo.org>
On Tue, 2006-24-01 at 13:32 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Mark Loeser wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz
> >>> <spyderous@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>> What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported ebuild
> >>> pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes, it means that some
> >>> people will pick up unnecessary deps until all packages are ported, but
> >>> it avoids anyone having to see flashy red errors.
> >> The problem with that is that it removes all motivation to ever port the
> >> packages. They'll just stay that way forever, where forever means "until
> >> I threaten to remove that from the virtual," in which case we'll be in
> >> the same scenario we are now. Why? Because people have better things to
> >> do than fix stuff that isn't broken.
> >
> > It'd be nice if you reconsidered this as it will minimize any breakage that
> > may occur. Knowing that >800 packages are broken, and going to unmask it
> > knowing that just doesn't seem acceptable in my eyes. ~arch isn't meant to
> > be "things are known to be broken." It's meant to mean, we think all of this
> > is ready to be stable, which it certainly won't be in this case.
>
> No, it won't. It will just postpone the same breakage, as I said above.
> You haven't provided any logic or backup to your contrary statement,
> just said that somehow a large portion of the other 800 will magically
> get ported.
Why not just postpone the unmasking by a few days... and lets say give
48h from now for all devs to fix their apps and have the volunteers
finish off the rest. Btw, I'll volunteer to help if I have any free time
this week. And then the unmasking can be much less painful.
--
Olivier Crête
tester@gentoo.org
Gentoo Developer
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-24 7:06 [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 7:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-24 7:33 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 17:25 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-24 18:34 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-24 18:44 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-24 18:52 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-01-25 5:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-24 21:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 22:06 ` Olivier Crete [this message]
2006-01-24 22:33 ` Marius Mauch
2006-01-24 22:42 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 23:38 ` Georgi Georgiev
2006-01-25 1:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 6:28 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 6:38 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 6:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 7:08 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 7:19 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 7:39 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 7:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 7:40 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 8:12 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 8:43 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 9:06 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 9:10 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 11:27 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 11:46 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-25 12:18 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 12:47 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-25 13:09 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-26 7:08 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-26 7:26 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-26 7:49 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 2:41 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-31 4:13 ` Patrick McLean
2006-01-31 4:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Jackson
2006-01-31 6:01 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 6:47 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-01-31 7:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 8:18 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-01-31 8:26 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 11:29 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-31 17:28 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-31 18:41 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 19:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-01 0:50 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-02-01 7:19 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-01 8:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-01 10:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 18:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 19:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-25 20:31 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 20:36 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 21:11 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-25 21:36 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-26 11:56 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-26 13:09 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-26 14:23 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 7:16 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 7:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 7:34 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 7:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 8:02 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 8:34 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-01-24 12:38 ` Christian Heim
2006-01-24 12:52 ` Carlos Silva
2006-01-24 14:08 ` Marcelo Góes
2006-01-24 22:20 ` Alfredo Perez
2006-01-25 0:03 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 16:04 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-24 19:50 ` Mike Doty
2006-01-24 21:26 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 22:45 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 22:55 ` Alec Warner
2006-01-24 23:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 5:22 ` Jason Wever
2006-01-25 6:00 ` Joshua Baergen
2006-01-25 6:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 6:23 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 5:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-25 6:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
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