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From: Olivier Crete <tester@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:06:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1138140361.4715.13.camel@cocagne.max-t.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43D69CD0.7030404@gentoo.org>

On Tue, 2006-24-01 at 13:32 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Mark Loeser wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz
> >>> <spyderous@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>> What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported ebuild
> >>> pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes, it means that some
> >>> people will pick up unnecessary deps until all packages are ported, but
> >>> it avoids anyone having to see flashy red errors.
> >> The problem with that is that it removes all motivation to ever port the
> >> packages. They'll just stay that way forever, where forever means "until
> >> I threaten to remove that from the virtual," in which case we'll be in
> >> the same scenario we are now. Why? Because people have better things to
> >> do than fix stuff that isn't broken.
> > 
> > It'd be nice if you reconsidered this as it will minimize any breakage that
> > may occur.  Knowing that >800 packages are broken, and going to unmask it
> > knowing that just doesn't seem acceptable in my eyes.  ~arch isn't meant to
> > be "things are known to be broken."  It's meant to mean, we think all of this
> > is ready to be stable, which it certainly won't be in this case.
> 
> No, it won't. It will just postpone the same breakage, as I said above.
> You haven't provided any logic or backup to your contrary statement,
> just said that somehow a large portion of the other 800 will magically
> get ported.

Why not just postpone the unmasking by a few days... and lets say give
48h from now for all devs to fix their apps and have the volunteers
finish off the rest. Btw, I'll volunteer to help if I have any free time
this week. And then the unmasking can be much less painful. 

-- 
Olivier Crête
tester@gentoo.org
Gentoo Developer


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-24 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-24  7:06 [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24  7:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-24  7:33   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 17:25     ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-24 18:34       ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-24 18:44         ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-24 18:52           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-01-25  5:18             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-24 21:32       ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 22:06         ` Olivier Crete [this message]
2006-01-24 22:33         ` Marius Mauch
2006-01-24 22:42           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 23:38       ` Georgi Georgiev
2006-01-25  1:21     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25  6:28       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  6:38         ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  6:53         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25  7:08           ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25  7:19             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  7:39               ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25  7:24             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25  7:40               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  8:12                 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25  8:43                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  9:06                     ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25  9:10                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 11:27                         ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 11:46                           ` Brian Harring
2006-01-25 12:18                             ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25 12:47                               ` Brian Harring
2006-01-25 13:09                                 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-26  7:08                               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-26  7:26                                 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-26  7:49                                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31  2:41                                     ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-31  4:13                                       ` Patrick McLean
2006-01-31  4:49                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Jackson
2006-01-31  6:01                                         ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31  6:47                                           ` Joshua Jackson
2006-01-31  7:35                                             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31  8:18                                               ` Joshua Jackson
2006-01-31  8:26                                                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 11:29                                         ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-31 17:28                                           ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-31 18:41                                             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-31 19:39                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-01  0:50                                             ` Jason Stubbs
2006-02-01  7:19                                               ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-01  8:25                                                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-01 10:18                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25 18:48                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 19:24                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-25 20:31                               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 20:36                                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25 21:11                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-25 21:36                                     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-26 11:56                       ` Brian Harring
2006-01-26 13:09                         ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-26 14:23                           ` Jason Stubbs
2006-01-25  7:16           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  7:27             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25  7:34               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  7:41                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25  8:02                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24  8:34 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-01-24 12:38   ` Christian Heim
2006-01-24 12:52     ` Carlos Silva
2006-01-24 14:08       ` Marcelo Góes
2006-01-24 22:20     ` Alfredo Perez
2006-01-25  0:03   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 16:04 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-24 19:50 ` Mike Doty
2006-01-24 21:26   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 22:45 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-24 22:55   ` Alec Warner
2006-01-24 23:35     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  5:22       ` Jason Wever
2006-01-25  6:00         ` Joshua Baergen
2006-01-25  6:18           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-25  6:23             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-25  5:05     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-25  6:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz

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