From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:10:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1136542207.10398.20.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060106042307.GA6682@sympatico.ca>
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On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:23 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
> After reading -- quickly -- this thread for a day or two,
> to see what Gentoo devs are thinking, I'm surprised
> anyone has been taking this rubbish seriously enough to reply at length.
> The final line suggests the writer has no serious interest in Gentoo.
I'd say the writer has an interest in Gentoo that does not fully overlap
with what has happened lately and wants to see things move
differently ...
> "Appoint one person to lead": the Germans did that back in 1933
> -- as did the French in 1799, the Russians in 1917 & the Chinese in 1949 --
dude ... like ... y'know ... the americans have one of those, too?
That was a really unneeded comment.
> & we have had a long time to reflect on the kind of thing which results.
... but still haven't learned much yet I think
> The community which achieved the most with the least in human history
> was ancient Athens, which was even less directed than Gentoo.
How about the Mongols or Turks? Atlantis?
> Democracy ? Consensus ? Co-operative efforts ? Rational discussion ?
> Apparently they are of no interest to the OP.
hmmm?
> As soon as anyone starts to order Gentoo devs to do anything,
> they will leave & not come back & the project really will die a prompt death.
> What makes it work is precisely "arguing among ourselves".
Inefficient. The collective demands to assimilate your individuality.
--
Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move
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Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-01 5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2006-01-01 23:35 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-02 4:10 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2006-01-03 16:05 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-04 22:06 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-04 22:37 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-04 22:51 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-06 5:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 18:14 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 18:33 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 18:50 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 19:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 19:28 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 19:42 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 17:19 ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 17:28 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 17:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-03 18:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:17 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 19:56 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 23:15 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-05 3:58 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 3:57 ` Greg KH
2006-01-05 4:31 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 5:39 ` Alec Warner
2006-01-05 6:00 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 6:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-05 13:07 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 15:51 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 16:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 16:50 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 17:39 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 13:31 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 6:05 ` Corey Shields
2006-01-05 6:13 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-01-05 6:49 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-05 10:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 10:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 19:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 13:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 13:18 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:58 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:52 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 6:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 12:09 ` Tom Martin
2006-01-05 12:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:40 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 22:04 ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-05 22:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 23:17 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 14:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 12:51 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:22 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 14:35 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:59 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 15:46 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 17:42 ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 19:30 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-06 1:09 ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-06 8:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 9:59 ` Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 18:46 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-06 11:23 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-06 15:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 15:26 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-06 15:33 ` Grobian
2006-01-06 17:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 15:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 17:10 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-06 21:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 15:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Lance Albertson
2006-01-05 16:20 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 16:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 17:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-13 14:28 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-13 14:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 16:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 17:38 ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 14:47 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 20:09 ` Aron Griffis
2006-01-13 14:32 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-06 1:03 ` Greg KH
2006-01-06 4:23 ` Philip Webb
2006-01-06 4:51 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-06 10:10 ` Patrick Lauer [this message]
2006-01-05 12:36 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:49 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-01-05 13:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:09 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:51 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-05 12:32 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 18:23 ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 19:59 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:12 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-05 4:33 ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-05 12:56 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 18:42 ` Greg KH
2006-01-12 18:57 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 19:33 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:05 ` Chandler Carruth
2006-01-02 21:25 ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-02 19:49 ` Grobian
2006-01-02 20:12 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 20:46 ` Grobian
2006-01-02 21:03 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:52 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-03 4:41 ` Greg KH
2006-01-03 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-03 13:34 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 22:04 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-03 22:38 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-04 0:36 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-06 17:48 ` Marius Mauch
2006-01-03 5:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 8:54 ` Thierry Carrez
2006-01-03 16:35 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 20:09 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 20:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 20:50 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-03 22:18 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 17:21 ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 17:41 ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 23:53 ` Moderated WIki -> ( Was Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January ) Alec Warner
2006-01-05 17:21 ` [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Aron Griffis
2006-01-05 16:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-08 0:15 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 0:35 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-08 2:56 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-08 13:40 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:01 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 14:49 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:18 ` Paweł Madej
2006-01-08 14:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-08 0:38 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 13:40 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 2:57 ` Stephen Bennett
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-01 5:31 Mike Frysinger
2008-01-01 5:30 Mike Frysinger
2008-01-02 21:49 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-03 13:02 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-03 23:54 ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-04 0:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 12:13 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 14:25 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 15:27 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:11 ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-09 17:18 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:54 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 21:10 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-10 6:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:23 ` Peter Volkov
2009-01-01 5:30 Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 13:31 Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 23:05 ` Brian Harring
2010-01-02 18:21 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-07 22:59 ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-01-09 13:58 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-08 7:00 ` Mike Frysinger
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