From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:03:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1136480603.20002.80.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060105163336.1735be8d@snowdrop.home>
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On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:33 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:20:09 +0100 Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> | It's getting more and more difficult to get things done, more and
> | more people / groups / herds to wait on to decide "obvious" things.
>
> Hrm, it is? Seems to me that it's no worse that it used to be. It's
> just that the stalling points are in different areas.
Hmmm ... I get the impression that there are more stalling points
> As for obvious... For any problem there's at least one solution that is
> both obvious and wrong...
Exactly :-) But I guess many among us have become a bit disillusioned and
try to stay away from what is perceived as useless trolling and silly
infights. So things either stall in discussion or get implemented with
the "obvious" flawed approach (early webapp-config and portage are good
examples) and then take a long time to become "fixed". There's still a
lot of good stuff happening, but as someone else said in this thread,
"we suck at execution" :-(
Patrick
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Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-01 5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2006-01-01 23:35 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-02 4:10 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2006-01-03 16:05 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-04 22:06 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-04 22:37 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-04 22:51 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-06 5:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 18:14 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 18:33 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 18:50 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 19:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 19:28 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 19:42 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 17:19 ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 17:28 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 17:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-03 18:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:17 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 19:56 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 23:15 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-05 3:58 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 3:57 ` Greg KH
2006-01-05 4:31 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 5:39 ` Alec Warner
2006-01-05 6:00 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 6:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-05 13:07 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 15:51 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 16:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 16:50 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 17:39 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 13:31 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 6:05 ` Corey Shields
2006-01-05 6:13 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-01-05 6:49 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-05 10:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 10:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 19:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 13:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 13:18 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:58 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:52 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 6:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 12:09 ` Tom Martin
2006-01-05 12:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:40 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 22:04 ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-05 22:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 23:17 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 14:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 12:51 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:22 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 14:35 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:59 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 15:46 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 17:42 ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 19:30 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-06 1:09 ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-06 8:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 9:59 ` Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 18:46 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-06 11:23 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-06 15:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 15:26 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-06 15:33 ` Grobian
2006-01-06 17:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 15:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 17:10 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-06 21:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 15:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Lance Albertson
2006-01-05 16:20 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 16:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 17:03 ` Patrick Lauer [this message]
2006-01-13 14:28 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-13 14:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 16:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 17:38 ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 14:47 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 20:09 ` Aron Griffis
2006-01-13 14:32 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-06 1:03 ` Greg KH
2006-01-06 4:23 ` Philip Webb
2006-01-06 4:51 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-06 10:10 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 12:36 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:49 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-01-05 13:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:09 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:51 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-05 12:32 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 18:23 ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 19:59 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:12 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-05 4:33 ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-05 12:56 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 18:42 ` Greg KH
2006-01-12 18:57 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 19:33 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:05 ` Chandler Carruth
2006-01-02 21:25 ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-02 19:49 ` Grobian
2006-01-02 20:12 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 20:46 ` Grobian
2006-01-02 21:03 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:52 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-03 4:41 ` Greg KH
2006-01-03 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-03 13:34 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 22:04 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-03 22:38 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-04 0:36 ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-06 17:48 ` Marius Mauch
2006-01-03 5:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 8:54 ` Thierry Carrez
2006-01-03 16:35 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 20:09 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 20:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 20:50 ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-03 22:18 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 17:21 ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 17:41 ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 23:53 ` Moderated WIki -> ( Was Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January ) Alec Warner
2006-01-05 17:21 ` [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Aron Griffis
2006-01-05 16:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-08 0:15 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 0:35 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-08 2:56 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-08 13:40 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:01 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 14:49 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:18 ` Paweł Madej
2006-01-08 14:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-08 0:38 ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 13:40 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 2:57 ` Stephen Bennett
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-01 5:31 Mike Frysinger
2008-01-01 5:30 Mike Frysinger
2008-01-02 21:49 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-03 13:02 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-03 23:54 ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-04 0:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 12:13 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 14:25 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 15:27 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:11 ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-09 17:18 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:54 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 21:10 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-10 6:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:23 ` Peter Volkov
2009-01-01 5:30 Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 13:31 Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 23:05 ` Brian Harring
2010-01-02 18:21 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-07 22:59 ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-01-09 13:58 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-08 7:00 ` Mike Frysinger
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