From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EtmOQ-0003gC-7E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:40:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k03DdDeG020939; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:39:13 GMT Received: from smtp05.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k03DbE1E002049 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:37:15 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp05.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k03DcHxV000901 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:38:17 -0500 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:34:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <200601011053.k01ArjOh019213@robin.gentoo.org> <43B96D6D.8080107@gentoo.org> <1136226795.8779.10.camel@localhost> <43B975FD.1000401@gentoo.org> <1136228634.23404.125.camel@localhost> <20060102194954.GB7125@gentoo.org> <1136232723.23404.154.camel@localhost> <20060102204604.GC7125@gentoo.org> <43B99539.70409@gentoo.org> <1136238763.23404.171.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5jfhvxDlUoIqU/K/zyW5" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:34:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1136295292.27358.8.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 X-Archives-Salt: 4e2ec3f1-669a-408a-9a12-ec8ed426f5e3 X-Archives-Hash: 8a239d6fe917c541c161e837a3c9d72c --=-5jfhvxDlUoIqU/K/zyW5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 04:08 -0700, Duncan wrote: > Patrick Lauer posted <1136238763.23404.171.camel@localhost>, excerpted > below, on Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:52:43 +0100: >=20 > Lance Albertson wrote: > >> When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at", > >> I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There isn't > >> another distro out there that does it as well as us and we should > >> improve on that fact. Let the other distros get better at being > >> binary-based. >=20 > > Why would one prevent the other from happening?=20 > > Maybe someone finds an elegant way for "Binary Gentoo" ... should we > > stop that person because it conflicts with a weird mission statement? >=20 > I believe that's where the differing opinions begin to come in. Here's > mine. I don't believe that Gentoo, /as/ /Gentoo/, will ever be very > successful as an Enterprise distribution, and I don't think that it can > every be very successful as a binary distribution, either. The things > that make us, that is Gentoo, unique, and the best in our area, by > definition are the /same/ sort of things that make a relatively poor > enterprise or binary distribution. I completely agree with you here. What Gentoo does is make a meta-distribution, that one can utilize to build their own distribution easily. This isn't limited to Linux, either, thanks to Gentoo/Alt. I think that any single direction that we shoot towards will cause friction internally and will reduce productivity, along with leaving certain projects out. We're simply moving in too many directions to have a single direction. The biggest concern that I see here is a lack of communications, really. We don't need direction. We just need some way for people to know who's going where. I think Koon's "MetaBug" project would be an excellent idea to assist in this. We need a body with some teeth to get things done in a timely manner. We also need enforcement of some sort to ensure projects are active and reporting information on their status. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-5jfhvxDlUoIqU/K/zyW5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDun18kT4lNIS36YERAmM0AKCuErGRWkMacTxW37lz/mOCaRdpmgCggaRj Evq5bH5V970zqycpeNVjzMw= =+47v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5jfhvxDlUoIqU/K/zyW5-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list