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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:52:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1136238763.23404.171.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43B99539.70409@gentoo.org>

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On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 15:03 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > Lance mentioned something about what he sees is a niche where Gentoo
> > does quite well.  "Produce the best software distribution, ever" sounds
> > a bit vague to me.  That's why I agree with Lance for now.  Maybe after
> > a little research, trial and error period it turns out to be better to
> > keep the target vague.
> 
> Yeah, if we're content to being a hobbyist distro, then that mission
> statement will work. But, the technology behind Gentoo has far broader
> benefits for various things. Especially with the recent work of the alt
> related subprojects, embedded, etc ... its changing. Like for me, I
> would love to use the portage technology to build packages for solaris
> machines I maintain at work.
While I do agree with you here there's still the problem that each and
every one of us has his (or her or its) own idea what "we" should do.

Some want the ricer flags and tweakability.
Others want to see one package manager to rule them all.
Then there's the "because we can" group.
The enterprise-oriented persons.

I wonder ... can we have one precise mission statement without
alienating a big part of our user base? 


>  We have a build system currently, but its
> nothing like portage. Gentoo is more than just Linux now and we should
> have goals that fit that.
I guess some people would like to disagree there. (Not me, I like that
whole "metadistribution thingy, it's the way to world domination)
>  When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at",
> I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There isn't
> another distro out there that does it as well as us and we should
> improve on that fact. Let the other distros get better at being
> binary-based.
Why would one prevent the other from happening? 
Maybe someone finds an elegant way for "Binary Gentoo" ... should we
stop that person because it conflicts with a weird mission statement?

-- 
Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-02 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2006-01-01 23:35 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-02  4:10   ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2006-01-03 16:05   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-04 22:06     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-04 22:37       ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-04 22:51         ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-06  5:15     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 18:14 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 18:33   ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 18:50     ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 19:03       ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 19:28         ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 19:42           ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 17:19           ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 17:28             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 17:50               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-03 18:09                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:17               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 19:56                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 23:15                 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-05  3:58                 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  3:57                   ` Greg KH
2006-01-05  4:31                     ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  5:39                       ` Alec Warner
2006-01-05  6:00                         ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  6:25                           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-05 13:07                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 15:51                             ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 16:37                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 16:50                                 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 17:39                                 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 13:31                           ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:33                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05  6:05                         ` Corey Shields
2006-01-05  6:13                           ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-01-05  6:49                           ` Brian Harring
2006-01-05 10:26                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 10:36                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:48                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 19:03                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 13:52                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 13:18                           ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:22                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:58                               ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:52                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05  6:31                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 12:09                         ` Tom Martin
2006-01-05 12:24                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:40                             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 22:04                             ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-05 22:24                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 23:17                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 14:15                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 12:51                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:22                         ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 14:35                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:59                             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 15:46                               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 17:42                                 ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 19:30                                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-06  1:09                                   ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-06  8:37                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06  9:59                                     ` Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 18:46                                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-06 11:23                                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-06 15:15                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 15:26                                         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-06 15:33                                         ` Grobian
2006-01-06 17:05                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06 15:42                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 17:10                                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-06 21:43                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 15:42                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Lance Albertson
2006-01-05 16:20                               ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 16:33                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 17:03                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-13 14:28                                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-13 14:26                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 16:37                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 17:38                               ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 14:47                           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 20:09                       ` Aron Griffis
2006-01-13 14:32                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-06  1:03                       ` Greg KH
2006-01-06  4:23                         ` Philip Webb
2006-01-06  4:51                           ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-06 10:10                           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 12:36                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:49                       ` Dan Meltzer
2006-01-05 13:07                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:09                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:51                       ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-05 12:32                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 18:23               ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 19:59                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:12             ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-05  4:33               ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-05 12:56                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 18:42                   ` Greg KH
2006-01-12 18:57                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 19:33         ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:05           ` Chandler Carruth
2006-01-02 21:25             ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-02 19:49         ` Grobian
2006-01-02 20:12           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 20:46             ` Grobian
2006-01-02 21:03               ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:52                 ` Patrick Lauer [this message]
2006-01-03  4:41                   ` Greg KH
2006-01-03 11:08                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-03 13:34                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 22:04                       ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-03 22:38                         ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-04  0:36                           ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-06 17:48                           ` Marius Mauch
2006-01-03  5:35   ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03  8:54   ` Thierry Carrez
2006-01-03 16:35   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 20:09     ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 20:35       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 20:50         ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-03 22:18       ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 17:21   ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 17:41     ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 23:53     ` Moderated WIki -> ( Was Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January ) Alec Warner
2006-01-05 17:21   ` [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Aron Griffis
2006-01-05 16:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-08  0:15 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08  0:35   ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-08  2:56     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-08 13:40     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:01       ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 14:49         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:18       ` Paweł Madej
2006-01-08 14:25       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-08  0:38   ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 13:40     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08  2:57   ` Stephen Bennett
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-01  5:31 Mike Frysinger
2008-01-01  5:30 Mike Frysinger
2008-01-02 21:49 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-03 13:02 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-03 23:54   ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-04  0:01     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 12:13   ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 14:25     ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 15:27       ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:11         ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-09 17:18           ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:18           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:54       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 21:10         ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-10  6:56         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:23     ` Peter Volkov
2009-01-01  5:30 Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 13:31 Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 23:05 ` Brian Harring
2010-01-02 18:21 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-07 22:59   ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-01-09 13:58     ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-08  7:00   ` Mike Frysinger

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