From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EtV36-0006eu-Lr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:08:53 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k02J7YIF027728; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:07:34 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k02J42Uo022854 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:04:03 GMT Received: from dslb-084-063-029-118.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.63.29.118] helo=[10.0.0.13]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1EtUyQ-0004dG-Bq for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:04:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January From: Patrick Lauer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <43B975FD.1000401@gentoo.org> References: <200601011053.k01ArjOh019213@robin.gentoo.org> <43B96D6D.8080107@gentoo.org> <1136226795.8779.10.camel@localhost> <43B975FD.1000401@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-LMjFgif2GoZkC0zmxOwr" Organization: Gentoo Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:03:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1136228634.23404.125.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 X-Archives-Salt: 0d3a2def-7acd-4cb9-8952-ece736bba24e X-Archives-Hash: 6a2df1014c93c1e402736d1919afcd7c --=-LMjFgif2GoZkC0zmxOwr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to > make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a > mission statement, but no one ever remembers what it is or abides by it. I guess there isn't one driving force behind Gentoo - we have many=20 differing opinions on things like QA, handling of bugs, ... It's just that usually Gentoo gets the least in your way when you're trying=20 to do something :-) > I guess I'm almost hinting at that Gentoo needs a single entity that's > sole purpose is to drive/research the direction and goals for Gentoo. There was this Robbins guy ... remember him? ;-) > It'd be almost ceo-like, but the council is still top dawg. Right now, I > view our group as a bunch of chiefs with no real single leader saying > "lets strive to do this". The main problem is, too many people fear > about such a person could turn into a dictator, so I'm not sure if this > could ever happen.=20 I wonder if any single person would be accepted? After all there is noone capable of forcing anyone to do anything as far as I can tell - worst case you fork Gentoo (again) and don't resolve the issues. > This person would be in constant contact of all the > groups and try to muck together what everyone is doing. They could > suggest things to help minimize user impact, maybe try to join two > projects if they are both working on a similar goal, thus minimizing the > workload. Stuff like that essentially. Communication ... should happen anyway, but it seems to get more and more=20 difficult. Another layer of bureaucracy won't help that ... > We need a good visionary. If such > a position were created, I also think that person's sole focus should be > that focus within Gentoo. (i.e. they aren't a major contributor for a > subproject in Gentoo). This position would take too much time for them > to keep those other duties. ... and you'd burn out a capable person within half a year I think > Dunno, maybe I'm the loner here thinking this... Maybe a bit idealistic, but I mostly agree :-) Patrick --=20 Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move --=-LMjFgif2GoZkC0zmxOwr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDuXkZqER3hOUoZM4RAua2AJ9VrIigyiqfh46K7ZNkqUc59yykcwCgiG2K P2QOTIs1XBslFDMtcJLRxSk= =4lGc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-LMjFgif2GoZkC0zmxOwr-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list