From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Er0jz-0006cU-IP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:22:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBQMLgnW020817; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:21:42 GMT Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBQMJoft032308 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:19:51 GMT Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1056318wri for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:19:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=E4gOchdJBLKoJovHdzV8nqtTlg2v6DL1vJzJsiypdhf/S7wSFm5OjxUfS04GuewX8fpoMslsDCgHktbRG1JnNWDgl+hBVPpxEgfqiB6nmeqw2+eM5ttjna5nM0HE9S4GnHiIcdAhI/qyc7i282vLtMuSjhP/dxDFbdw1WUHlJOk= Received: by 10.54.62.17 with SMTP id k17mr4464776wra; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?176.16.10.30? ( [68.144.157.61]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 12sm12610427wrl.2005.12.26.14.19.49; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:19:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning From: Lares Moreau To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1135622183.3203.27.camel@zelda.hyrule> References: <43AF7B25.6060803@gentoo.org> <20051226153533.695493e4@snowdrop.home> <1962459692.20051226175717@gentoo.org> <1135622183.3203.27.camel@zelda.hyrule> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-18oG3lkh2sXQgnXv96/Y" Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:19:47 -0700 Message-Id: <1135635587.7410.32.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 X-Archives-Salt: a6a340d0-6dae-4978-a3a6-6ab67a66b749 X-Archives-Hash: 2898dc6b86b050fbd6db9df606e717ee --=-18oG3lkh2sXQgnXv96/Y Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 12:36 -0600, Joe McCann wrote: >=20 > For the record, the eds flag was > added as a default flag because every 3rd gnome user would file bugs or > complain via forums because they installed gnome, found no > evolution-data-server integration, and then be bummed when they had to > recompile packages again. This whole thread seems to have come from a > misunderstanding of how use.defaults work and 20 min of boredom. >=20 I'm relatively ignorant of USE Flag intricacies, so please forgive me if things don't 'fit'. Is it feasible and or useful to have a 'meta-flag' that that enables all the 'necessary' USE flags for a given group of packages? So something like USE=3D'meta-'.=20 This has the distinction of being a meta-flag, and as such nothing really gets turned on 'behind the users back', advanced users can look into it and see what is being enabled by it and USE=3D'-flag' for the flags the users doesn't need/want, and expert users would just not use it. This way meta packages like KDE and Gnome can have their own meta-flag to do what the need with. It also seems to me that more things will need to 'just work' as our user-base becomes larger and, on average, less advanced. We could amend the desktop guide to include something like USE=3D'meta-gnome' to the gnome section. And similar to other meta-flags. This may add an unnecessary level of complexity to the use flag system, but also may be very useful.=20 --=20 Lares Moreau | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint =3D 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E --=-18oG3lkh2sXQgnXv96/Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDsGyDfZRIPg1Gu24RAinuAJwIyIMBMbI0eomKEIvHoE48DHw3ewCePA1O qVTWHMjW9j9yO3W57UeRAss= =hqGc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-18oG3lkh2sXQgnXv96/Y-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list