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From: Lares Moreau <lares.moreau@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:19:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1135635587.7410.32.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135622183.3203.27.camel@zelda.hyrule>

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On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 12:36 -0600, Joe McCann wrote:
> 
> For the record, the eds flag was
> added as a default flag because every 3rd gnome user would file bugs or
> complain via forums because they installed gnome, found no
> evolution-data-server integration, and then be bummed when they had to
> recompile packages again. This whole thread seems to have come from a
> misunderstanding of how use.defaults work and 20 min of boredom.
> 

I'm relatively ignorant of USE Flag intricacies, so please forgive me if
things don't 'fit'.

Is it feasible and or useful to have a 'meta-flag' that that enables all
the 'necessary' USE flags for a given group of packages?  So something
like USE='meta-<flagname>'. 
This has the distinction of being a meta-flag, and as such nothing
really gets turned on 'behind the users back', advanced users can look
into it and see what is being enabled by it and USE='-flag' for the
flags the users doesn't need/want, and expert users would just not use
it. This way meta packages like KDE and Gnome can have their own
meta-flag to do what the need with.

It also seems to me that more things will need to 'just work' as our
user-base becomes larger and, on average, less advanced. We could amend
the desktop guide to include something like USE='meta-gnome' to the
gnome section. And similar to other meta-flags.

This may add an unnecessary level of complexity to the use flag system,
but also may be very useful. 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-26 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-26  5:09 [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning Doug Goldstein
2005-12-26  6:09 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-12-26  6:22   ` Dale
2005-12-26 16:27     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-12-26  7:24   ` Doug Goldstein
2005-12-26  7:33     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-12-26 12:53       ` Bastiaan Visser
2005-12-26 13:12         ` Petteri Räty
2005-12-26 16:32           ` Jan Kundrát
2005-12-26 16:44             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-12-26 18:28           ` Andrew Muraco
2005-12-26 12:45     ` Danny van Dyk
2005-12-26 11:35 ` Luca Barbato
2005-12-26 15:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 16:57   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 17:07     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 17:53       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 19:15         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-12-26 19:03       ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2005-12-26 20:06         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 18:36     ` Re[2]: " Joe McCann
2005-12-26 19:00       ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-12-26 19:24       ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 20:48         ` Joe McCann
2005-12-26 21:02           ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-12-26 21:21         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-12-26 21:47           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 22:19       ` Lares Moreau [this message]
2005-12-26 22:28         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 22:31         ` Andrew Muraco
2005-12-27  1:29         ` Dale
2005-12-27  4:28         ` Chandler Carruth
2005-12-27  4:43           ` Brian Harring
2005-12-27  5:10             ` Chandler Carruth
2005-12-27  5:30               ` Brian Harring
2005-12-28 17:05     ` Olivier Fisette
2005-12-30 18:07       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-26 17:08 ` Simon Stelling
2005-12-26 18:34   ` Doug Goldstein

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