From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EqzJm-0007Ks-3R for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:51:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBQKoVtM007498; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:50:31 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBQKlv2H011682 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:47:58 GMT Received: from c-67-173-77-82.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.173.77.82] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1EqzG9-00075K-Do for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:47:57 +0000 Subject: Re: Re[4]: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning From: Joe McCann To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <738984276.20051226202410@gentoo.org> References: <43AF7B25.6060803@gentoo.org> <20051226153533.695493e4@snowdrop.home> <1962459692.20051226175717@gentoo.org> <1135622183.3203.27.camel@zelda.hyrule> <738984276.20051226202410@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:10 -0600 Message-Id: <1135630090.3203.38.camel@zelda.hyrule> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 975e9aed-3757-48b1-abc7-36fd01529c22 X-Archives-Hash: 3e2c6e7d559a92f7a2ffc152e2d564a9 On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 20:24 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > 26.12.2005, 19:36:23, Joe McCann wrote: > > > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:57 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > > >> eds - please, fix the ebuilds properly instead of throwing the thing on > >> everyone. This has already caused numerous invalid bugs with people > >> wondering why the heck portage wants to emerge gnome with USE="-gtk -gnome" > >> > > > For the record, the eds flag was added as a default flag because every 3rd > > gnome user would file bugs or complain via forums because they installed > > gnome, found no evolution-data-server integration, and then be bummed when > > they had to recompile packages again. This whole thread seems to have come > > from a misunderstanding of how use.defaults work and 20 min of boredom. > > OK, so because every 3rd gnome user is not able to add the proper use flag > to make.conf, every non-gnome user is stuck with investigating and putting > -eds into make.conf to avoid pulling in gnome crap. Wonderful. > > Yes, I am ranting, because this kind of use flags basically pulls in huge > number or unwanted dependencies; exactly the same thing with motif - would > someone explain why the heck do do we need this thing in make.defaults? > I can say the same thing for people who are to lazy to add the proper -use flag(when it is much more obvious that deps you don't want are being pulled in compared to support you do want not being compiled in). Unless this is going to go beyond ranting, there isn't much point from either side. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list