From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EmYf6-0004zj-7K for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:35:24 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBEFXqnw018877; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:33:52 GMT Received: from smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBEFTHFo017740 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:29:17 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id jBEFTXZj027695 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:29:33 -0500 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:27:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20051214002557.GB1863@toucan.gentoo.org> References: <20051213205903.GA27045@aerie.halcy0n.com> <439F6055.1090508@gentoo.org> <20051214002557.GB1863@toucan.gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-X1O4ddjGP1nf+amm+t9+" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:27:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1134574040.3773.28.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 X-Archives-Salt: 7adb9ade-17ff-4ce0-8b19-056b178f0588 X-Archives-Hash: c1d9bc31c810dd92e52a8a93dd74b19a --=-X1O4ddjGP1nf+amm+t9+ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 00:25 +0000, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 05:59:17PM -0600, Jory A. Pratt wrote: > > Mark Loeser wrote: > > > Basically what I'm looking for here is an easy to understand explanat= ion of > > > what textrels are, why they are bad, and why they should hold back ma= rking a > > > package stable. The only information I've been able to find states t= hat they > > > could cause a performance hit, but this doesn't seem to warrant banni= ng them > > > completely in my eyes. > > >=20 > > > Getting a clear cut policy on exactly what issues should hold a packa= ge back=20 > > > from being marked stable is what I'm looking for. Issues like textre= ls,=20 > > > executable stacks, etc is what I'm looking for to be defined and expl= ained why=20 > > > we are to always avoid them. This should be added to existing docume= ntation > > > policy so it is somewhere for new devs to know about, and existing de= vs to > > > have for a reference. > > > > Only problem I see with this is binary packages. We can not control > > upstream binaries as everyone is aware of. So when does it become safe > > to override stable packages that have texrel's and executable stacks? >=20 > no idea what you mean by "override", but here's a crazy idea ... ask > upstream to fix the issues. for example, we just reported executable > stacks with the ut2004 game and Ryan of epicgames was so kind as to > fix it up for us. some upstream peeps dont even know about these sort > of things until you point them out. Let me take that back again. This is resolved on amd64, but not on x86. There's 2 binaries. This also explains why I didn't see the error and closed the bug, I'm on amd64, whereas the bug reporter is on x86. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-X1O4ddjGP1nf+amm+t9+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDoDnXkT4lNIS36YERAuz5AJ9SKxXgaM/w7Pm3eFAPFzPlAX8iagCdEHBq moUulMj6CQDN4aEfcUPv/jg= =yj8B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-X1O4ddjGP1nf+amm+t9+-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list