From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EhnvQ-0008Qm-Sw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:52:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jB1Cpool007459; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:51:50 GMT Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (66-191-187-123.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com [66.191.187.123]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jB1CnnHP004115 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:49:50 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A0424801F for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09356-18 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from vertigo.twi-31o2.org (vertigo.twi-31o2.org [192.168.0.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3BF24801E for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:40:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86 From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <20051128142233.GA19195@aerie.halcy0n.com> <20051130185640.GA5891@aerie.halcy0n.com> <20051130200005.GA17628@superlupo.rechner> <438E068F.7020804@leetworks.com> <20051130201210.GB6839@aerie.halcy0n.com> <438E08A3.7080001@leetworks.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-y1a0To3IUMRNLgwsKJoJ" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:47:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1133441228.22022.4.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org X-Archives-Salt: 29d3c8fc-f9ad-49a5-bcb6-97ae64aa2dab X-Archives-Hash: ed11229efd0bae0b14285fe9880bcace --=-y1a0To3IUMRNLgwsKJoJ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 23:17 -0600, R Hill wrote: > > That makes me feel a bit more comfortable. I still think that something > > more then an einfo warning should be provided, as its easy to overlook > > those. >=20 > All arches other than x86 have made the switch to 3.4 stable already. Th= ey did > so without problem and without extra docs. Why does x86, the last to swi= tch, > need to be special-cased? Honestly, it is because x86 is the *vast* majority of our user base. When we change something there, we get an onslaught of complaints/comments/opinions. The truth is that while we have a large "silent majority" of people that know what we're doing, we also have the very "vocal minority" of people that only managed to get Gentoo working because they followed some guide to the letter. These people freak out at patch-level bumps that require fix_libtool_files.sh, so I can only imagine how confusing something like that would be to them. Yes, the other arches have done this. In the case of at least one, they aligned it with a new profile/release, to ease the pain. They also were very sure to announce it beforehand. Seeing as how I have been on the receiving end of this border-line harassment for making a change that doesn't hurt anything, I don't want anyone on my team to make the same mistake. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-y1a0To3IUMRNLgwsKJoJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDjvDMkT4lNIS36YERAjjZAJ4iQubdpbW/N3t8xkM90isXOEJ5XwCfZFiP REzZuZNYiaXeSkFwbgJRVNs= =n21Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-y1a0To3IUMRNLgwsKJoJ-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list