From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:47:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1133441228.22022.4.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dmm11c$c6b$1@sea.gmane.org>
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On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 23:17 -0600, R Hill wrote:
> > That makes me feel a bit more comfortable. I still think that something
> > more then an einfo warning should be provided, as its easy to overlook
> > those.
>
> All arches other than x86 have made the switch to 3.4 stable already. They did
> so without problem and without extra docs. Why does x86, the last to switch,
> need to be special-cased?
Honestly, it is because x86 is the *vast* majority of our user base.
When we change something there, we get an onslaught of
complaints/comments/opinions. The truth is that while we have a large
"silent majority" of people that know what we're doing, we also have the
very "vocal minority" of people that only managed to get Gentoo working
because they followed some guide to the letter. These people freak out
at patch-level bumps that require fix_libtool_files.sh, so I can only
imagine how confusing something like that would be to them. Yes, the
other arches have done this. In the case of at least one, they aligned
it with a new profile/release, to ease the pain. They also were very
sure to announce it beforehand. Seeing as how I have been on the
receiving end of this border-line harassment for making a change that
doesn't hurt anything, I don't want anyone on my team to make the same
mistake.
--
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-01 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-28 14:22 [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86 Mark Loeser
2005-11-28 14:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-28 18:12 ` Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
2005-11-28 22:24 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2005-11-28 23:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-29 2:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2005-11-29 2:40 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-29 8:51 ` Gregorio Guidi
2005-11-29 9:04 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 9:53 ` Graham Murray
2005-11-29 10:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 14:50 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-29 15:03 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-29 15:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-29 15:52 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-29 16:04 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-29 17:37 ` Andreas Proschofsky
2005-11-29 18:26 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-01 17:26 ` Paul Varner
2005-11-29 16:51 ` Peter Ruskin
2005-11-29 8:56 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 11:18 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-29 13:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-29 13:21 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-29 13:50 ` Curtis Napier
2005-11-29 14:03 ` William Kenworthy
2005-11-29 16:38 ` Tres Melton
2005-11-29 15:50 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-29 15:01 ` Mike Williams
2005-11-29 15:39 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-30 4:41 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 14:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-30 14:16 ` tuxp3
2005-11-30 14:25 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-30 14:45 ` Graham Murray
2005-11-30 18:56 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-30 19:25 ` Petteri Räty
2005-11-30 20:00 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-30 20:07 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 20:12 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-30 20:16 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 20:51 ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-30 21:13 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-30 21:19 ` Mark Loeser
2005-12-01 4:41 ` Lares Moreau
2005-12-01 5:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-12-01 11:50 ` Jason Wever
2005-12-01 12:47 ` Chris Gianelloni [this message]
2005-12-01 14:33 ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-30 21:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Ruskin
2005-11-30 21:27 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-30 22:15 ` Peter Ruskin
2005-11-30 22:48 ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-30 21:31 ` Simon Strandman
2005-11-30 22:34 ` Philip Webb
2005-11-30 22:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-30 22:43 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-30 22:48 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-30 23:29 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-30 23:41 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-30 23:50 ` Mark Loeser
2005-12-01 0:30 ` Marien Zwart
2005-12-01 0:53 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-01 1:07 ` Marien Zwart
2005-12-02 2:03 ` Matthias Langer
2005-12-02 2:14 ` Matthias Langer
2005-12-01 1:19 ` Philip Webb
2005-12-01 9:19 ` Petteri Räty
2005-11-30 21:34 ` solar
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