From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eead8-0003Wz-EO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:04:26 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAMG3A1B029128; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:03:10 GMT Received: from smtp05.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAMFxqct031902 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:59:52 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp05.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id jAMG0K4S027503 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:00:21 -0500 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:58:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1132673344.9197.52.camel@onyx> References: <20051122144745.GR12982@mail.lieber.org> <20051122143743.GV5305@sole.infis.univ.trieste.it> <1132672444.27288.18.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <1132673344.9197.52.camel@onyx> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vgKWrVTwle4lTSI9963E" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:58:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1132675126.27288.31.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Archives-Salt: 29c41bd0-da04-4c71-917f-7762c09b6089 X-Archives-Hash: 102337252bf9d375c9613777df0b720a --=-vgKWrVTwle4lTSI9963E Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 10:29 -0500, solar wrote: > > Now, on the topic of the tarballs. > >=20 > > Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage= 2 > > tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball. >=20 > Stage1: Changing CHOST=3D and run ./bootstrap.sh=20 > (well you can do it but it's dumb) Right. You can do it. > Stage3: has full cxx/berkdb/ssl/pam/libwrap and all the cruft pulled in > from having use flags enabled thats not easy to get rid of otherwise. You can accomplish this, too. Maybe we could even use that nice little "scripts" directory in the portage tree to write a script to assist in performing this. I'm sure it would be less error-prone than what we have now with the broken QA procedures allowing things to go into system, or system-depended packages, that pulls in all kinds of useless crap. > I don't care what you do with the docs, but the stages 1, 3 need to=20 > stay. stage2 has always been a bonus stage more or less added into the=20 > mix cuz it's a byproduct of stage building (pre catalyst days). Removing the stage1 and stage2 instructions from the Handbook has already reduced the number of errors being reported by new users to me. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-vgKWrVTwle4lTSI9963E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDg0A1kT4lNIS36YERAuWOAKCdz4JML9krfdOW5PmoySRXs99aUQCfQHSO YwnWS/NNqH4vqOHrdhTEFSE= =weFd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vgKWrVTwle4lTSI9963E-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list