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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:58:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132675126.27288.31.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132673344.9197.52.camel@onyx>

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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 10:29 -0500, solar wrote:
> > Now, on the topic of the tarballs.
> > 
> > Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2
> > tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball.
> 
> Stage1: Changing CHOST= and run ./bootstrap.sh 
> (well you can do it but it's dumb)

Right.  You can do it.

> Stage3: has full cxx/berkdb/ssl/pam/libwrap and all the cruft pulled in
> from having use flags enabled thats not easy to get rid of otherwise.

You can accomplish this, too.  Maybe we could even use that nice little
"scripts" directory in the portage tree to write a script to assist in
performing this.  I'm sure it would be less error-prone than what we
have now with the broken QA procedures allowing things to go into
system, or system-depended packages, that pulls in all kinds of useless
crap.

> I don't care what you do with the docs, but the stages 1, 3 need to 
> stay. stage2 has always been a bonus stage more or less added into the 
> mix cuz it's a byproduct of stage building (pre catalyst days).

Removing the stage1 and stage2 instructions from the Handbook has
already reduced the number of errors being reported by new users to me.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-22 14:47 [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Kurt Lieber
2005-11-22 14:37 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-22 15:14   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26     ` Marc Hildebrand
2005-11-22 15:48       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:15         ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-22 16:33           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:13             ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-23  4:58         ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23  5:15           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23  6:16             ` R Hill
2005-11-23 11:41               ` Duncan
2005-11-23  7:04           ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 15:29     ` [gentoo-dev] " solar
2005-11-22 15:38       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:47         ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-22 15:58       ` Chris Gianelloni [this message]
2005-11-22 16:25         ` solar
2005-11-22 16:40           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:40     ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-23  5:19       ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23  5:36         ` Dale
2005-11-23  6:08           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-23  5:43         ` Tuan Van
2005-11-23 20:05     ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Owen
2005-11-23 20:13       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:16         ` Mike Owen
2005-11-23 21:21           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:31     ` Bruno
2005-11-22 14:53 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:15   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:19     ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Kirchner
2005-11-22 16:39       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:12         ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-22 17:51           ` Simon Stelling
2005-11-22 17:59             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:08               ` Joe McCann
2005-11-22 17:40         ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:02           ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 18:48             ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:59           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:23             ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:13       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-22 18:20         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:47           ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-23 17:30             ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-22 18:03     ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 18:16       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:17       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-22 19:04         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:47           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 18:29       ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-24 20:49         ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " lnxg33k
2005-11-25 14:28           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-02  5:21             ` lnxg33k
2005-11-22 19:06       ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:28         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:57           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:16             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 20:28               ` Alexey Chumakov
2005-11-22 21:02                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:42               ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-22 21:13                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:58               ` Re[2]: " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 21:36                 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 23:26                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-23  0:55                     ` Re[6]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23  1:09                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-23  1:13                       ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-23  1:30                       ` Re[6]: " George Prowse
2005-11-23 10:25                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 11:06                         ` Re[8]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 13:01                           ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 13:19                             ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 15:57                               ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-23 14:16                                 ` solar
2005-11-23 13:50                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 15:49     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:54   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:06     ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-11-22 16:18       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:30     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:15       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 18:37         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:24       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Benjamin Judas
2005-11-22 20:54   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 18:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-23  4:01 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-23  9:24   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 14:12     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-24  5:26     ` Sven Vermeulen

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