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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:49:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132674577.27288.27.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122152649.GA19886@dmz.brixandersen.dk>

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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 16:26 +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:10:14AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > Personally, I would like to see stage1 and stage2 go away completely.
> > They serve no real purpose anymore after the changes we have made to the
> > stages to include a complete /var/db before 2005.0's release.  They take
> > longer to use for installation, and give you exactly 0 advantages over a
> > stage3 that cannot be done with a stage3 tarball itself.
> 
> Perhaps we should just document these facts better? Write a news item
> explaining the reasons behind removing stage1/2 instructions from our
> handbooks - and explain _why_ stage1 and 2 are not really better than
> a stage3 install + bootstrap.sh + emerge -e world. Perhaps also add a
> small note about this to the handbook.

Well, the information was in the bug linked with the GWN article, along
with also in the gentoo-docs mailing list archive that was posted.

> If our users are explained why stage1/2 installs don't give any
> benefits over a stage3 install, I trust them to aknowledge this fact.

Your faith is much stronger than mine.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-22 14:47 [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Kurt Lieber
2005-11-22 14:37 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-22 15:14   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26     ` Marc Hildebrand
2005-11-22 15:48       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:15         ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-22 16:33           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:13             ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-23  4:58         ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23  5:15           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23  6:16             ` R Hill
2005-11-23 11:41               ` Duncan
2005-11-23  7:04           ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 15:29     ` [gentoo-dev] " solar
2005-11-22 15:38       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:47         ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-22 15:58       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:25         ` solar
2005-11-22 16:40           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:40     ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-23  5:19       ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23  5:36         ` Dale
2005-11-23  6:08           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-23  5:43         ` Tuan Van
2005-11-23 20:05     ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Owen
2005-11-23 20:13       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:16         ` Mike Owen
2005-11-23 21:21           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:31     ` Bruno
2005-11-22 14:53 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:15   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:19     ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Kirchner
2005-11-22 16:39       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:12         ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-22 17:51           ` Simon Stelling
2005-11-22 17:59             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:08               ` Joe McCann
2005-11-22 17:40         ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:02           ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 18:48             ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:59           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:23             ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:13       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-22 18:20         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:47           ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-23 17:30             ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-22 18:03     ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 18:16       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:17       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-22 19:04         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:47           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 18:29       ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-24 20:49         ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " lnxg33k
2005-11-25 14:28           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-02  5:21             ` lnxg33k
2005-11-22 19:06       ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:28         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:57           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:16             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 20:28               ` Alexey Chumakov
2005-11-22 21:02                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:42               ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-22 21:13                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:58               ` Re[2]: " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 21:36                 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 23:26                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-23  0:55                     ` Re[6]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23  1:09                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-23  1:13                       ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-23  1:30                       ` Re[6]: " George Prowse
2005-11-23 10:25                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 11:06                         ` Re[8]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 13:01                           ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 13:19                             ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 15:57                               ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-23 14:16                                 ` solar
2005-11-23 13:50                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 15:49     ` Chris Gianelloni [this message]
2005-11-22 15:54   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:06     ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-11-22 16:18       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:30     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:15       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 18:37         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:24       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Benjamin Judas
2005-11-22 20:54   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 18:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-23  4:01 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-23  9:24   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 14:12     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-24  5:26     ` Sven Vermeulen

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