From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Edxd9-0000nl-Uh for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:25:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAKMP9xd013763; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:25:09 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAKMNM1H032565 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:23:22 GMT Received: from c83-251-211-193.bredband.comhem.se ([83.251.211.193]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1Edxak-0005yT-1n for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:23:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature From: "Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4380D4AC.3080602@gentoo.org> References: <951460691.20051118163308@gentoo.org> <20051118154312.GF24327@toucan.gentoo.org> <1726602389.20051118165931@gentoo.org> <20051118191858.GA28166@phaenix.haell.com> <20051118231429.GA2777@toucan.gentoo.org> <4380D4AC.3080602@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-oJiqHbusJQ6DrUbRNmL2" Organization: Gentoo Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:23:19 +0100 Message-Id: <1132525399.1292.4.camel@Darkmere.darkmere> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Archives-Salt: 25abd099-8bdc-4f89-b32d-c70b74a36575 X-Archives-Hash: 13315b5401a70804711c3a150d3f08a7 --=-oJiqHbusJQ6DrUbRNmL2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote: > However changing this will also lead to many supprises and tick off many > users who don't know why a bunch of flags just vanished. How about we > leave the feature in portage but remove auto from USE_ORDER in the > 2006.0 profile and put a note about the changed behaviour the release > announcements. For users who do like the functionality just properly > document the existance of USE_ORDER in the install guide. *applauds* Sensibility as well as an un-breaking upgrade path! Finally we see thought in this area ; ) Documenting this would be great. However, I'd -also- want the IUSE=3D"+auto -bongodrums alpha beta +zeta" to be set, perhaps with a new USE_ORDER variable ":ebuild:" ? =20 The dark magic was a very good and usable approach, however with the growth of our tree, it has seen its use and it may well be time to phase it out in favour of a more fine-grained mechanism. Adding and documenting a "recommended enable" set, would be a great start. It could also be used to fine-tune packages for the GRP set, in order to do partial on/off settings based on the parts that the maintainers consider "good and reasonable" I know one place where I'd love to see this is fex. the various multimedia backends, openssl/gnutls among other such settings. //Spider --=20 begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end --=-oJiqHbusJQ6DrUbRNmL2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDgPdXZS9CZTi033kRAuq7AKCq328terWn6whRW4GpNI4MN4texgCeMnwz R/off7PX5/eJYeLS7pw19uk= =scUF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-oJiqHbusJQ6DrUbRNmL2-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list