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From: Stuart Herbert <stuart@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:37:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1131748635.8508.86.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051111184053.780ed8c9@sven.genone.homeip.net>

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On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 18:40 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
>   I've already asked a similar question in another mail (in other
> context) without an answer, but how many news items do people believe
> will exist at any given time?

We won't know for certain until people start using it.  I expect that
it'll eventually be used for more than just the
package-upgrade-will-break-your-box type news that we plan on using it
for at first.

For example, there's no real reason why GLSA's couldn't been delivered
via this at some point (although I'd prefer a "You have X amount of
security fixes to apply" type message adding to emerge, and treating
GLSAs as a special case).

> Things that should definitely be changed:
> - Integration with existing systems:
> This definitely should be a requirement for the GLEP to be considered
> final. It doesn't prevent some thing being implemented sooner than
> others, but multi-channel distribution (to use a buzzword) is a
> requirement from where I come from.

One of the key things with successfully delivering a change programme is
to not dilute the change by introducing too many at once.  

If we simultaneously launch emerge --news w/ (f.ex) gatewaying to
gentoo-announce, I believe that it weakens the impact of introducing
emerge --news.  

One of the objectives is to remove confusion from the minds of users
about where to find the news.  If we can start by pointing at one place,
and saying "go there", we can clear up the confusion, and then
afterwards introduce multi-channel distribution when our users "get it",
so to speak.

I'm all for making the news available via www.g.o etc etc as well - I
just think doing it all at the same time will not be the most effective
strategy.

Best regards,
Stu
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-11 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-05  0:58 [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05  1:24 ` Stephen Bennett
2005-11-05  1:44 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-05  1:53   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 10:28 ` Grobian
2005-11-05 10:53   ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-05 11:16     ` Grobian
2005-11-05 11:10   ` kloeri
2005-11-05 11:29     ` Grobian
2005-11-05 11:47       ` kloeri
2005-11-05 12:58         ` Grobian
2005-11-05 13:19           ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2005-11-05 14:04             ` Grobian
2005-11-06 20:37           ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-06 21:38             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-06 21:47               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 16:27                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-07 17:03                   ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-07 18:32                     ` Grobian
2005-11-07 18:41                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 19:11                         ` Grobian
2005-11-07 19:51                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 20:13                           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-10 20:55                           ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-11  9:03                             ` Grobian
2005-11-11 11:52                               ` Tres Melton
2005-11-11 22:19                               ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-12  4:39                                 ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-12 15:34                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-12 16:05                                     ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-12 17:23                                       ` Grobian
2005-11-13 14:55                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-07 19:01                       ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-07 19:02                       ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-07 19:14                         ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-07 20:10                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Grobian
2005-11-07 20:21                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 20:32                             ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-10 21:33                             ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-11  9:19                               ` Grobian
2005-11-11  9:38                                 ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-11 10:10                                   ` Grobian
2005-11-11 15:39                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-11 15:29                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-12 17:16                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-07 22:10                     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Duncan
2005-11-07  7:18               ` [gentoo-dev] " John Myers
2005-11-07 16:17                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-05 17:34   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 17:58     ` Ferris McCormick
2005-11-05 18:08       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 22:32     ` Grobian
2005-11-05 23:07       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-06  8:33         ` Grobian
2005-11-06 21:56           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07  8:41             ` Grobian
2005-11-07  9:34               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-07 16:21               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 11:24 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-05 17:45   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 20:29     ` Brian Harring
2005-11-05 23:10       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 11:34 ` Lisa Seelye
2005-11-05 12:08   ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-05 17:46   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 11:43 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-05 17:53   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 19:13     ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-05 20:04       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 13:18 ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-05 13:24   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-05 13:42     ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-05 17:57   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-06  2:44     ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-05 19:24 ` Philip Webb
2005-11-05 20:04   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-05 22:24     ` Philip Webb
2005-11-05 22:36       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 10:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-07 11:03   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-07 16:23   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 20:12     ` Philip Webb
2005-11-07 20:34       ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-07 20:45       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-07 23:17         ` Philip Webb
2005-11-08  0:41           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-10 23:12 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-10 23:35   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-11  0:07     ` Mike Owen
2005-11-11  0:11       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-11  3:52         ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-11  4:09           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-11  4:27             ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-12 17:22             ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-11 15:34           ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-11 11:28     ` Benno Schulenberg
2005-11-11 12:48       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-12  2:27         ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-12  7:05           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-11 14:33     ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-11 17:40 ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-11 20:54   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-11 21:09   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-12  0:55     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-11 22:37   ` Stuart Herbert [this message]
2005-11-11 23:08     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-14  9:25       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-14 14:03         ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-11 23:22     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-12  0:57       ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-12  8:49         ` Grobian
2005-11-12 11:32           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-12 15:45             ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-12 15:26         ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-13 14:07           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-13 22:34           ` [gentoo-dev] " Stuart Herbert
2005-11-13 23:43             ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-14  0:14               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-14 13:59             ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-18 23:44               ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-19  1:44                 ` George Prowse
2005-11-19  7:41                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-20 18:06                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-20 20:42                   ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-20 21:01                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-21 14:13                       ` Mint Shows
2005-11-21 20:07                         ` Andrew Muraco

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