From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EYMMp-0003pR-7F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:37:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA5Baekj003330; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:36:40 GMT Received: from thedoh.com (81-179-21-198.dsl.pipex.com [81.179.21.198]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA5BXk8i019583 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:33:46 GMT Received: by thedoh.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 7984714CF74; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lithium.thedoh.com (unknown [192.168.0.254]) by thedoh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE67B14CF62; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:33:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two From: Lisa Seelye To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: glep@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-K2Qo/QeneWsNEwNN6V9G" Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:34:23 +0000 Message-Id: <1131190463.13050.29.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3-gr0 (2005-04-27) on www.thedoh.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3-gr0 X-Archives-Salt: a7114396-5f9d-42ec-b0e2-75bb9dbc0e63 X-Archives-Hash: 7d147eaffab05baf34f6cb625623d5e7 --=-K2Qo/QeneWsNEwNN6V9G Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 00:58 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Feedback from people who have something useful to say would be very much > welcomed, assuming of course that they've read the GLEP. It is written in the GLEP (Requirements): No user monitoring required It has already been demonstrated [#forums-whining]_ that many users do not read news items posted to the Gentoo website, or do not read news items until it is too late. A solution that relies upon active monitoring of a particular source has no advantage over current methods. And later in Specification->Overview: 5. Users fetch the news item when they sync. This ensures that the news items in question are pushed to the user before the user accidentally makes an unwanted change. No changes to the existing rsync process are required by this GLEP. My concerns are twofold: The first is the method of delivery: Through 'emerge sync', which requires that users run this on a regular basis to receive relevant news. Further, this process can take a very long time and transfers a relatively large amount of data along with the news. My second concern is the frequency that users sync. A stated concern is getting news to users before it is too late. Is there any way to gauge the number of unique users which sync on a regular basis? When is "too late"? Is there an acceptable window for delivering news? It is not uncommon for me to refrain from running emerge sync (or even cvs up on the entire gentoo-x86 tree) for weeks or months on machines I wish to keep somewhat static. --=20 Regards, Lisa Seelye GPG: 09CF5 2D6B8 2B72B 997A7 601BC B46B5 561E4 96FC5 http://www.thedoh.com/~lisa/site --=-K2Qo/QeneWsNEwNN6V9G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDbJi/y0a1Vh5Jb8URAjUfAKDb3xOWn4VulMjpA2S4lOYwlqmelACgoFl5 86ZOrKezid1RH69h07H8RRk= =0DNm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-K2Qo/QeneWsNEwNN6V9G-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list