From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EY2MG-0005wy-G3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:15:56 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA4EEX00018950; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:14:33 GMT Received: from smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA4E7wT2011949 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:07:58 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id jA4E84fd031909 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:08:04 -0500 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:07:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <436ABCD5.2060107@gentoo.org> References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <200511011722.29840.jkt@gentoo.org> <20051101182506.4dd701f6@snowdrop.home> <436A1576.5070909@ieee.org> <20051103191642.1fbdbd9d@snowdrop.home> <436AAB79.4020700@ieee.org> <20051104004247.0ff50ff0@snowdrop.home> <436AB342.9040606@ieee.org> <20051104011106.780b46bb@snowdrop.home> <436AB84B.4010406@ieee.org> <436ABCD5.2060107@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-N3SGHqM91R22038Pg2X5" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 09:07:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1131113243.18994.9.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Archives-Salt: 6df398d8-8b78-40b7-8c3e-5ef71a4405da X-Archives-Hash: ad3b0b3c4caa32c867dd6213f2af96d4 --=-N3SGHqM91R22038Pg2X5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 20:43 -0500, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > How about getting some facts straight before running your mouth? Gentoo=20 > most certainly does not expect users to have a web browser to install.=20 > The last time I actually installed on x86 (which was some time ago=20 > admittedly), there was a .txt version of the install guide on the livecd. Exactly. > Even then, the web browser you are speaking of runs directly off the=20 > livecd. So, what happens when there is critical news to be read during=20 > the install phase inside the chroot, but no web browser is yet=20 > installed? Are you suggesting we bloat stage1 and stage2 with some sort=20 > of XML parser so that the user can read news without having to kill the=20 > emerge and read the news outside the chroot? I think you would have a=20 > seriously hard time convincing the release folks this is a good idea. We won't add more cruft to the stages. We're already to the point of trying to determine ways to reduce stage size, not increase it. > Furthermore, it is not possible to include any sort of XML parser with=20 > installers for certain arches which use very minimal netboots for the=20 > default installation method. So really, your complaints about the=20 > "lightweight" requirement appears to just be a way of subverting=20 > attention away from the real reasons it is a good idea, and towards=20 > maintaining a flamewar with ciaran that you will surely lose. What is it for SPARC again? 4MB for both kernel + initrd? --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-N3SGHqM91R22038Pg2X5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDa2sbkT4lNIS36YERAkMEAJ92KcurbScTdzj0TlKdSgWjMkXPDgCggqpf sFd9sONXbkQc2GVB1BdR/sI= =vdmm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-N3SGHqM91R22038Pg2X5-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list