From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEqwe-0004We-S3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:14:13 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8CG98xW008799; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:09:08 GMT Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.88]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8CG7RIQ009442 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:27 GMT Received: from gateway.lan (wblv-146-220-235.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.220.235]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB437545 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:11:50 +0200 (SAST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373733A248C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:47 +0200 (SAST) Received: from gateway.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15309-13 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: from lycan.lan (lycan.lan [192.168.0.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9AB3A241D for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:38 +0200 (SAST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ROX: maintainer-wanted and apps out of date From: Martin Schlemmer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1126539707.10549.19.camel@localhost> References: <1126447110.10560.13.camel@localhost> <1126484067.10558.83.camel@localhost> <20050912012514.43ef63ee@snowdrop.home> <200509121356.02558.carlo@gentoo.org> <1126533798.455.23.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20050912142835.GD13507@kfk4ever.com> <1126539707.10549.19.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-CoEnLv+fKznEy4+1tiR3" Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:12:31 +0200 Message-Id: <1126541552.14207.61.camel@lycan.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at nosferatu.za.org X-Archives-Salt: fb51030d-178d-491e-a434-47b750364e03 X-Archives-Hash: 8119d6dd66606415147d96fa6e637bdd --=-CoEnLv+fKznEy4+1tiR3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 11:41 -0400, Peter Hyman wrote: > On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 16:28 +0200, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:03:17AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > Many users seem to think > > > that a WONTFIX is non-negotiable. I tend to agree with them, for the > > > most part. Rather than WONTFIX them, simply tell them that they won'= t > > > be included as-is. WONTFIX gives the user the impression that we are > > > not interested in their work or the package, when this is not the cas= e. > >=20 > > But if a developer tells them what is wrong and to reopen the bug when > > they've fixed it, it shouldn't be a problem. And that's what I've seen > > in this case. > >=20 >=20 > I think you all misunderstand MY position on this. I provided ebuilds in > the hope it would save the maintainers time and effort. If the work I > did is 90% to spec, then there really is no reason for the maintainer > NOT to take it, tweak it, and maybe send a note or add a comment to the > bug as to what was fixed. It would ensure two things: 1) that the user > will (hopefully) not make the same mistake again, and 2) get the ebuild > upstream quicker. >=20 > Sending it back to the contributor only will waste more time. >=20 You will get exactly the same effect if you were to send a patch to LKML to fix or improve some or other part of the kernel, and either the coding style, or the way it is fixed is not to Linus or the specific subsystem maintainer's liking. The general idea is that if somebody want to get involved, they should be prepared to to take the time to learn how to do fairly decent patches/whatever. This makes review easier, and also minimises the workload on whatever maintainer. --=20 Martin Schlemmer --=-CoEnLv+fKznEy4+1tiR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDJajvqburzKaJYLYRAsDKAJ9x+CgC4MfZoHzplTjrxLN+OaI3PQCffTWK mauGVVr8FtAA9yR/yRe+7/I= =MS4c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-CoEnLv+fKznEy4+1tiR3-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list