From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEoy4-0004IQ-UQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:07:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8CE2Vv6011985; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:02:31 GMT Received: from smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8CE004w007193 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:00:01 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j8CE4KoX026774 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:04:20 -0400 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:03:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ROX: maintainer-wanted and apps out of date From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200509121356.02558.carlo@gentoo.org> References: <1126447110.10560.13.camel@localhost> <1126484067.10558.83.camel@localhost> <20050912012514.43ef63ee@snowdrop.home> <200509121356.02558.carlo@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Qsey8CWGnllLaYGu3dMf" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:03:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1126533798.455.23.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 X-Archives-Salt: faa4a6cb-7379-44b1-babb-884c9210fe48 X-Archives-Hash: 7f298084afc86f7e5fb38c72925da5b0 --=-Qsey8CWGnllLaYGu3dMf Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 13:55 +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Monday 12 September 2005 02:25, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > If you're not up for having your code reviewed, don't contribute to an > > open source project. No-one expects you to produce perfect code > > straight off (at least, we don't until we give you commit access). We > > *do* expect you to be prepared to respond to constructive criticism and > > improve your code. >=20 > Personally I think you're just going a bit wild by closing the bug report= s as=20 > wont fix and expecting users to fix them. That's part of developers job, = if=20 > someone takes into account adding an ebuild to the official tree, isn't i= t?!=20 > While I can understand your motivation, I'd like to know if your doing is= =20 > backed up by at least an informal decision (didn't follow the threads whi= ch=20 > resulted in the maintainer* aliases, etc.), because we have enough whinin= g=20 > guys, who don't understand that our ressources are limited. Caring for th= e=20 > quality of stuff, that is not part of the official tree is only bad PR, b= ut=20 > not a win for us, imho. We generally handle this in games not by marking it WONTFIX (except rarely) but instead by simply leaving it open, and commenting to the users what they need to fix before it would be included. We aren't 100% stringent on what we require users to fix, and many times we'll fix it ourselves if it isn't that much and simply note it in the bug for the user to see. This tends to lead to users providing better ebuilds in the future, and also lessens user frustration. Many users seem to think that a WONTFIX is non-negotiable. I tend to agree with them, for the most part. Rather than WONTFIX them, simply tell them that they won't be included as-is. WONTFIX gives the user the impression that we are not interested in their work or the package, when this is not the case. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-Qsey8CWGnllLaYGu3dMf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDJYqlkT4lNIS36YERAq+WAJ9lnu090YtlX/E05W84WWNQhR8kagCghc6+ piu04EHsfo53Ou4sJPtwrmI= =HqOT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Qsey8CWGnllLaYGu3dMf-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list