From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEng7-0003fF-9O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:44:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8CCcprJ024348; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:38:51 GMT Received: from ctb-mesg6.saix.net (ctb-mesg6.saix.net [196.25.240.86]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8CCZf4S032694 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:35:41 GMT Received: from gateway.lan (wblv-146-220-235.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.220.235]) by ctb-mesg6.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A4EBED7 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:40:03 +0200 (SAST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBBC3A248C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: from gateway.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11980-19 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:13:49 +0200 (SAST) Received: from lycan.lan (lycan.lan [192.168.0.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276FF3A241D for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:13:49 +0200 (SAST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why autoconf in system? From: Martin Schlemmer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1126527993.5947.159.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1126527993.5947.159.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DGqFOp7soQKxJanNQ5sy" Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:40:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1126528842.14207.51.camel@lycan.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at nosferatu.za.org X-Archives-Salt: a92a2b61-9ed4-406c-9e5b-e053cfe85f4e X-Archives-Hash: 01245133174cacbb7ffe81cb679c9671 --=-DGqFOp7soQKxJanNQ5sy Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 14:26 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: > Hi, >=20 > we meet often the (faulty) notion that autoconf/automake (even a couple > of versions on gentoo) is a dependency for packages. >=20 > This is true only for development of these packages itself. > Autoconf/automake provides tools to GENERATE configure scripts. Both are > totally unnecessary to build a package or run the programs it provides. > I've built a full featured LFS system not long ago without even > autoconf/automake installed. >=20 > I'd suggest to remove the build of autoconf/automake from ``emerge > system''. I'd leave all of the autoconf/automake versions in portage > tough for the case someone wants to involve in development of some > package. >=20 While this is true, you missed the fact that many packages from time to time apply patches that touches configure.{ac,in}, or Makefile.am, or just do not come tarballed with configure, etc generated, so it is indeed needed. --=20 Martin Schlemmer --=-DGqFOp7soQKxJanNQ5sy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDJXdKqburzKaJYLYRAmonAJ9lQi0fSRzhHi9YjO+npDfoD/UNOwCeI7mq iLlXy9Y24z5vBO2UkAfbSvk= =17oV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DGqFOp7soQKxJanNQ5sy-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list