From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EC2Jm-0002ON-N5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:46:27 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j84LgAap008633; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:42:10 GMT Received: from myrddraal.demon.co.uk (myrddraal.demon.co.uk [62.49.28.63]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j84LeJG4027523 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:40:20 GMT Received: from mogheiden.gnqs.org (mogheiden [192.168.0.20]) by myrddraal.demon.co.uk (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j84Lkp06010639 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:46:52 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep From: Stuart Herbert To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20050904215705.1490579e@snowdrop.home> References: <20050904143711.GD23576@dst.grantgoodyear.org> <20050904194141.4059a55e@snowdrop.home> <20050904191609.GE23576@dst.grantgoodyear.org> <1125864664.11360.107.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <20050904215705.1490579e@snowdrop.home> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dtUGdieQxJ4HLZHW7PJM" Organization: Gentoo Linux Project Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:43:20 +0100 Message-Id: <1125870200.11361.147.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 X-Archives-Salt: b3d4cde5-bfd2-4da6-81e0-4cf275fb9a19 X-Archives-Hash: 9c31dff1adee6b2f0c96a63ef62bec4a --=-dtUGdieQxJ4HLZHW7PJM Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 21:57 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Yeah, foser's on holiday. Good time to push the GLEP through. How typical of you to try and drag this discussion down into something personal :( If you keep feeling the need to do this, do everyone a favour and keep your mouth shut instead. It detracts from otherwise insightful and useful comments. > The only reason certain arch teams are considered a bottleneck is > because they do real testing. As opposed to x86 or ppc, where packages > which won't even unpack get marked stable... You can't help yourself, can you? You have to have a pop at someone :( I didn't mean "considered", I meant "are". It wasn't a criticism, it's just a statement of fact. It's impossible for an arch team to keep pace with the rate of change in the tree and do adequate testing too. No arch team is currently big enough. Arch teams are always going to lag behind what package maintainers do. It's a simple numbers game. There are only two arch teams with 20 or more members (amd64 and ppc), as of 22:30 BST today. They have to deal with the output of approx 155 herds, plus countless changes that don't go through herds in the first place. The numbers speak for themselves. Arch teams are bottlenecks. Until the numbers change, that won't change. Best regards, Stu --=20 Stuart Herbert stuart@gentoo.org Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ http://stu.gnqs.org/diary/ GnuGP key id# F9AFC57C available from http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint =3D 31FB 50D4 1F88 E227 F319 C549 0C2F 80BA F9AF C57C -- --=-dtUGdieQxJ4HLZHW7PJM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDG2p4DC+AuvmvxXwRAuQhAJ9jcXigEjSz2IjRNUrSdAO0ZBdQ3ACgllyr hE4jAt+I7fQACCai74pzpLo= =s2h3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dtUGdieQxJ4HLZHW7PJM-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list