From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9OQF-0003uE-LO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:46:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7SEhk6p004516; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:43:46 GMT Received: from dir.bg (mail.dir.bg [194.145.63.28]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7SEewun015817 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:40:58 GMT Received: from [217.30.222.4] (account rumen_yotov HELO mach.qrypto.org) by dir.bg (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 15903562 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:42:44 +0300 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] crap use flags in the profiles From: Rumen Yotov <rumen_yotov@dir.bg> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <43118B66.8030503@gentoo.org> References: <20050825000442.GC1701@nightcrawler> <431036EA.8050401@gentoo.org> <43118B66.8030503@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: private Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:42:36 +0300 Message-Id: <1125240156.20793.8.camel@mach.qrypto.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 82e8593f-303e-4fb4-9a59-b8bd49b99230 X-Archives-Hash: 80e697a4accae0f734a5ee1bdb932b07 On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 12:01 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Brian Harring wrote: > > > >> I don't recall having kde/gtk crap turned on by default when I first > >> showed up. Maybe I'm missing something; regardless, the defaults > >> (which should be minimal from my standpoint) are anything but. > > > > > > I think you recall wrong, then. The default USE flags have been set so > > that the majority of systems will work properly without modifications, > > not so that they're the minimal set. > > I agree with that, since it's easy to configure them, but the problem is > that for most users, there is no default use flag at all. I'd say most > of our users run either gtk (and gnome) or qt (and kde), but not both. > Either you like gnome or kde ;) So we end up having qt, gtk, gtk2, > gnome, kde and arts in the default use flags, but nearly nobody wants to > use that, so I think it's better to have minimal use flags than > pseudo-standard ones. > > Regards, > > -- > Simon Stelling > Gentoo/AMD64 Operational Co-Lead > blubb@gentoo.org Hi, Think that at least some users have both Gnome&KDE (i for example). All this because there are some apps which are QT/KDE based and others are GTK/Gnome based. Using 'k3b' which requires QT/KDElibs, also kdebase-startkde just to have a working DE. Have full Gnome, but most time work using XFCE4. Initially when configuring my USE-flags took the default ones and put them (commented in /etc/make.conf) to see them and switch some ON/OFF. Rumen -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list