From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Drt18-0007aM-Tv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:47:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6B7kduT010753; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:46:39 GMT Received: from ctb-mesg6.saix.net (ctb-mesg6.saix.net [196.25.240.86]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6B7ivE7004447 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:44:57 GMT Received: from gateway.lan (wblv-146-200-204.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.200.204]) by ctb-mesg6.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6289B440A; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:45:33 +0200 (SAST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F98E3A2482; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:54:55 +0200 (SAST) Received: from gateway.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24108-11; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:54:51 +0200 (SAST) Received: from lycan.lan (lycan.lan [192.168.0.5]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2643A247B; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:54:51 +0200 (SAST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on From: Martin Schlemmer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Mike Frysinger In-Reply-To: <42D0189F.1030802@asmallpond.org> References: <20050706224651.GA19853@kroah.com> <200507081949.34728.m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> <20050708222544.GB22141@kroah.com> <1120865758.6495.4.camel@lycan.lan> <42D0189F.1030802@asmallpond.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+97oX/l/Y2RA9zTFEldh" Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:47:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1121068039.11171.2.camel@lycan.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at nosferatu.za.org X-Archives-Salt: bf0bbb66-d006-4eef-be49-1f5d114c977b X-Archives-Hash: b1054c8f1927e903abdec80b632b881f --=-+97oX/l/Y2RA9zTFEldh Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 20:34 +0200, Richard Fish wrote: > >>>I.o.w. is it still necessary to have RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=3D"yes" as a > >>>default or can we move to a pure udev system and change the default to > >>>"no". > >>> =20 > >>> > >>I've been running my boxes successfully with "no" since the option > >>showed up just fine :) > >> > >> =20 > >> > > > >I think people is under a misconception about this option and ... you > >really only need to enable this for a driver that is not sysfs aware > >(nvidia comes to mind - any others?), or if you have some custom nodes > >in /dev that you cannot do via udev ... And I am pretty sure (correct > >me if I am wrong) that all (or most?) in-kernel drivers are sysfs aware, > >and only a handful outside are not. > > > > =20 > > >=20 > Well, I do have a small issue with the software RAID (md) driver, in > that when autodetection is not performed by the driver (due to either > being a module or booting the system through an initramfs), no sysfs > entries or device nodes are created. >=20 > Normally my RAID system is brought up inside my initramfs with static > nodes, so this really only affects my recovery CD, where I need to run: >=20 > for d in 0 1 2 3; do > /sbin/mdadm --assemble --config=3Dpartitions --auto=3Dmd > --super-minor=3D$d /dev/md$d >/dev/null 2>&1 > done >=20 > Maybe something similar will be required in /sbin/rc, like you currently > do for LVM and the device mapper? It isn't a critical problem > though...I am pretty sure there are only a few Gentoo users who will > ever see this...maybe as few as 1!!! >=20 Mike, what do you think? This viable? We could maybe add an init addon for md, and move the lvm/whatever stuff to that as well? --=20 Martin Schlemmer Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer Cape Town, South Africa --=-+97oX/l/Y2RA9zTFEldh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBC0iQHqburzKaJYLYRAsFJAKCVW87a7cdXitw8efCVZgQqhoExTgCeOpPb OezhXe/z2LIPxtg/UvO8u2Y= =s1nr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+97oX/l/Y2RA9zTFEldh-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list