From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dr2Pm-0003nT-K5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:37:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j68NawdD001465; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:36:58 GMT Received: from ctb-mesg5.saix.net (ctb-mesg5.saix.net [196.25.240.85]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j68NYBHK010676 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:34:11 GMT Received: from gateway.lan (wblv-146-200-204.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.200.204]) by ctb-mesg5.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DCC36B1 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:34:23 +0200 (SAST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BB33A247B for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:43:40 +0200 (SAST) Received: from gateway.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gateway.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13071-15 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:43:35 +0200 (SAST) Received: from lycan.lan (lycan.lan [192.168.0.5]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gateway.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3473A2485 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:43:31 +0200 (SAST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on From: Martin Schlemmer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20050708222544.GB22141@kroah.com> References: <20050706224651.GA19853@kroah.com> <200507081949.34728.m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> <20050708222544.GB22141@kroah.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DoTsQeJWCBPCqfUV47sG" Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 01:35:58 +0200 Message-Id: <1120865758.6495.4.camel@lycan.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at nosferatu.za.org X-Archives-Salt: bbb39c90-72bb-4b57-9672-921e2d792be1 X-Archives-Hash: 3403496214f5d03b95fb0a5d77ed5a18 --=-DoTsQeJWCBPCqfUV47sG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 15:25 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 07:49:34PM +0200, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > On Thursday 07 July 2005 00:46, Greg KH wrote: > > > Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it= 's > > > time to start to revisit some of the /dev naming rules that we curren= tly > > > are living with[2]. > > > > > > To start with, the 061 version of udev offers a big memory savings if > > > you use the "default" kernel name of a device[3]. If you do that, it= does > > > not create a file in its database in /dev/.udevdb/ > >=20 > > Are there any ebuilds in the tree that are not sysfs/udev-aware? >=20 > Not that I am aware of. Anyone else know of any? >=20 Neither. Or rather, I do not know about anything that should not work with LSB /dev ... > > I.o.w. is it still necessary to have RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=3D"yes" as a > > default or can we move to a pure udev system and change the default to > > "no". >=20 > I've been running my boxes successfully with "no" since the option > showed up just fine :) >=20 I think people is under a misconception about this option and ... you really only need to enable this for a driver that is not sysfs aware (nvidia comes to mind - any others?), or if you have some custom nodes in /dev that you cannot do via udev ... And I am pretty sure (correct me if I am wrong) that all (or most?) in-kernel drivers are sysfs aware, and only a handful outside are not. --=20 Martin Schlemmer Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer Cape Town, South Africa --=-DoTsQeJWCBPCqfUV47sG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCzw3eqburzKaJYLYRAiuzAJ9vi/khJhwp+JL5+IimsgVweoxZSgCfRgPb Hs4om9vlgX70n/piXjBFkz8= =ACPE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DoTsQeJWCBPCqfUV47sG-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list