From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.105.134.102] (helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn25q-0004rl-Et for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:28:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j5RMR97Y012836; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:27:09 GMT Received: from smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5RMOANm025795 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:24:11 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5RMOoHH021508 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:24:50 -0400 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:24:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20050627215504.GC13005@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> References: <20050627170941.GA1225@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> <42C057B6.3070306@flaska.net> <20050627203103.GA13962@gentoo.org> <20050627205007.GA13005@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> <1119907158.13606.144.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20050627215504.GC13005@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-HlU0qjal729M/vSmsmJi" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:24:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1119911067.13606.158.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 X-Archives-Salt: 557ea550-adf5-41ef-a79e-5e8c546169a5 X-Archives-Hash: b6203b108dd6f4f914d94a66eedd2c36 --=-HlU0qjal729M/vSmsmJi Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 23:55 +0200, Haas Wernfried wrote: > > > There is no way to force it on them and firing them is not an option. > > Why not? > You're not serious, are you? > These people have dedicated a lot of work to the forums and > Gentoo. They are doing a great job. Why fire them? You're asking for Gentoo to make you guys "official". There are certain things that come with this, both good and bad. We can't go around making special exceptions for everyone. It is just that simple. > > > Personally, i'd like to see all of the existing moderators take the > > > quiz, i assume it may be something like two thirds. > > Then, in my opinion, I'd see 1/3 of the moderators getting the boot. > You're still not serious, are you? Yes, I am. That is why I said it. > The purpose of this GLEP is to solve a problem that was introduced a > while ago. Giving 1/3 of the mods the boot isn't exactly my definition > of solving a problem. What if there is no outcome with this GLEP, will > everybody get the boot who isn't a developer then? If nothing happens with the GLEP, then nothing happens. Nobody goes anywhere and nobody becomes an "official" member of the project. > I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can > achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given > enough time all old moderators may retire sooner or later and one day > all active moderators will be official. I just don't see it the same way as you. I agree with having all new *global* moderators taking the quiz. However, I completely disagree with you that we should have *some* global moderators that have become official Gentoo representatives, while others have not. It simply causes too much confusion and makes things a serious pain to manage. Either the forums become a much more controlled (as in global mods have to be staff) environment, or they stay the same. I just don't see how any middle ground would be feasible without an enormous amount of managerial overhead that seems like a complete waste of time to me. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-HlU0qjal729M/vSmsmJi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCwHybkT4lNIS36YERApHKAKCsJDiqt4ejKrg1Qgeq0Um2osBE3ACfcV9O +Li9A37l6VEajgcY0Xm5UUE= =xp0h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-HlU0qjal729M/vSmsmJi-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list