Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do...

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do...

[Patrick Lauer]

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On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 01:41 +0900, Chris White wrote:
> I just saw a bug report flow by for app-admin/mbr and looked for maintainers.  I found this:
> ChangeLog: 1 manson, 1 woodchip
> from jeeves.  Now, I think those people are retired, or I need to get out more (or both).  So what to do with said package.  It looks pretty old and this user wants it bumped so...  I'd do it but I have no solid test method and I really don't like putting out packages without one.
I think this problem is not limited to this package.
Maybe someone with some scripting skillz could create a list of all
"orphaned" packages?
(no metadata.xml, no active maintainer, ...)

> If anyone is interested, the bug number is here:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96254
> Otherwise we should do something about the fate of this package.
Either drop it or find a maintainer I guess. 
Always a drag to see packages getting dropped, but if noone maintains
them there's not much that can be done.

Patrick
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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do...

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:53, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Maybe someone with some scripting skillz could create a list of all
> "orphaned" packages?
> (no metadata.xml, no active maintainer, ...)
I've learned with first-person experience that no metadata doesn't means that 
a package is orphaned...
So maybe it's better said to developers: if you maintain something *please* 
add a metadata, or update it, so that who looks at bugs know who to ask to.

> Always a drag to see packages getting dropped, but if noone maintains
> them there's not much that can be done.
Well maybe we can have a way to define "latest portage version" for removed 
package (a tag on cvs?) so that someone can prepare a weekly tarball of 
removed packages waiting for new maintainers or so on.

-- 
Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò
Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64)

http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do...

[Patrick Lauer]

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On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 11:13 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:53, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > Maybe someone with some scripting skillz could create a list of all
> > "orphaned" packages?
> > (no metadata.xml, no active maintainer, ...)
> I've learned with first-person experience that no metadata doesn't means that 
> a package is orphaned...
ok, but it's still a "bug"
> So maybe it's better said to developers: if you maintain something *please* 
> add a metadata, or update it, so that who looks at bugs know who to ask to.
For that we should have a list of all affected packages I think.

> > Always a drag to see packages getting dropped, but if noone maintains
> > them there's not much that can be done.
> Well maybe we can have a way to define "latest portage version" for removed 
> package (a tag on cvs?) so that someone can prepare a weekly tarball of 
> removed packages waiting for new maintainers or so on.
you mean a repository of removed ebuilds?
I don't know if that is a good idea, but it sure has some uses.
But if I'm not mistaken files can be resurrected from cvs, so they are
not "lost", only less accessible.


Patrick
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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do...

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 10:53 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 01:41 +0900, Chris White wrote:
> > I just saw a bug report flow by for app-admin/mbr and looked for maintainers.  I found this:
> > ChangeLog: 1 manson, 1 woodchip
> > from jeeves.  Now, I think those people are retired, or I need to get out more (or both).  So what to do with said package.  It looks pretty old and this user wants it bumped so...  I'd do it but I have no solid test method and I really don't like putting out packages without one.

Ehh... the user that filed the bug could test it for you.

> I think this problem is not limited to this package.
> Maybe someone with some scripting skillz could create a list of all
> "orphaned" packages?
> (no metadata.xml, no active maintainer, ...)

Yes, it would be nice to get a list of these packages, but *not* for
removing them.  In many cases these packages "work" and have no bugs
filed against them, so what is gained by removing them?

> > If anyone is interested, the bug number is here:
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96254
> > Otherwise we should do something about the fate of this package.

> Either drop it or find a maintainer I guess. 
> Always a drag to see packages getting dropped, but if noone maintains
> them there's not much that can be done.

How about leave it alone?

I can understand if there is no maintainer and there are a ton of bugs
filed against it (or even just one critical one), but for a package
where the only "bug" is a version bump request?  Just ask the user to
test the ebuild, then commit it.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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[gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do...

[Chris White]

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I just saw a bug report flow by for app-admin/mbr and looked for maintainers.  I found this:

ChangeLog: 1 manson, 1 woodchip

from jeeves.  Now, I think those people are retired, or I need to get out more (or both).  So what to do with said package.  It looks pretty old and this user wants it bumped so...  I'd do it but I have no solid test method and I really don't like putting out packages without one.

If anyone is interested, the bug number is here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96254

Otherwise we should do something about the fate of this package.

Chris White

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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/mbr.. what to do... Bag somebody else with it!

[Drake Wyrm]

Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 11:13 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:53, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > > Always a drag to see packages getting dropped, but if noone
> > > maintains them there's not much that can be done.
> > Well maybe we can have a way to define "latest portage version" for
> > removed package (a tag on cvs?) so that someone can prepare a weekly
> > tarball of removed packages waiting for new maintainers or so on.
> you mean a repository of removed ebuilds? I don't know if that is a
> good idea, but it sure has some uses. But if I'm not mistaken files
> can be resurrected from cvs, so they are not "lost", only less
> accessible.

How about if, perhaps, the Gentoo developers make arrangements with the
folks at BreakMyGentoo to have them adopt orphaned packages? That way,
the packages would still be available to users who like to tinker and
don't mind playing with explosives.

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