From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from skinny.southernlinux.net (ns2.rednecks.net [64.192.52.5])
	by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j55FfTBO028444
	for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:41:43 GMT
Received: (qmail 27032 invoked by uid 210); 5 Jun 2005 11:41:21 -0400
Received: from 10.10.10.188 by skinny (envelope-from <solar@gentoo.org>, uid 201) with qmail-scanner-1.25st 
 (clamdscan: 0.82/912. f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25st.  
 Clear:RC:1(10.10.10.188):. 
 Processed in 2.171171 secs); 05 Jun 2005 15:41:21 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.188?) (10.10.10.188)
  by 0 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2005 11:41:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category
From: Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
In-Reply-To: <200506051622.24240@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org>
References: <200506051622.24240@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:37:51 -0400
Message-Id: <1117985871.30949.13.camel@localhost>
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Archives-Salt: 81a45ac6-43d7-48e0-b898-2e46d7a4b574
X-Archives-Hash: 5f928ab7c53470ec23ad819161488116

On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
> I ever seen.
> Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
> pam_smb in net-misc and so on.
> 
> I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
> implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.
> 
> Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I 
> think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such 
> a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, 
> obv.)..
> 
> Comments?

Diego:
This is not directed at you solely but expresses my general feelings on 
the topic of ever moving packages.

I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of 
time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. 
Invalidates binary package trees. It places stress on rsync servers. It
makes people have to rewrite rsync_exclude files. Makes it harder for 
scripts that interact with portage. And in the end really gains us next
to nothing. Please stop moving stuff around for cosmetic reasons. I see
far to many threads about changing stuff. No real valuable work ever
gets done. Stuff simply just gets shifted around somebody can think of a
new way to categorize existing data.

-- 
Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list