From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from skinny.southernlinux.net (ns2.rednecks.net [64.192.52.5]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j55FfTBO028444 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:41:43 GMT Received: (qmail 27032 invoked by uid 210); 5 Jun 2005 11:41:21 -0400 Received: from 10.10.10.188 by skinny (envelope-from , uid 201) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (clamdscan: 0.82/912. f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(10.10.10.188):. Processed in 2.171171 secs); 05 Jun 2005 15:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.188?) (10.10.10.188) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2005 11:41:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category From: Ned Ludd To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200506051622.24240@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> References: <200506051622.24240@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:37:51 -0400 Message-Id: <1117985871.30949.13.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 81a45ac6-43d7-48e0-b898-2e46d7a4b574 X-Archives-Hash: 5f928ab7c53470ec23ad819161488116 On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way > I ever seen. > Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, > pam_smb in net-misc and so on. > > I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with > implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed. > > Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I > think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such > a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, > obv.).. > > Comments? Diego: This is not directed at you solely but expresses my general feelings on the topic of ever moving packages. I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. Invalidates binary package trees. It places stress on rsync servers. It makes people have to rewrite rsync_exclude files. Makes it harder for scripts that interact with portage. And in the end really gains us next to nothing. Please stop moving stuff around for cosmetic reasons. I see far to many threads about changing stuff. No real valuable work ever gets done. Stuff simply just gets shifted around somebody can think of a new way to categorize existing data. -- Ned Ludd -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list